patrick reif Posted September 13, 2010 Report Share Posted September 13, 2010 GP is my go-to color. I have a mental recipe of GP and it looks good before the flake is added I've made and shot 100's of baits in this color, and know the recipe well enough to hit close to home. I've been asked to make a GP with blue flake chunk by a buddy. I'm having difficulties...it's almost like the brown qualities of GP disappear when blue flake is added and I'm left with a dark, dirty watermelon. The color really looks good prior to the flake added. After that...not so much Does the flake make the differance? What's going on? I've tried 4 seperate times today with varying amounts of colorant and still end up with less than stellar results. I want GP with blue flake that looks like GP with blue flake, not dirty water melon with blue flake. Using plastic, colorant, and fine flake from Dels. I couldn't tell you the # of drops of each color used I tried...I just eyeball it, but I make a good colored GP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHK Posted September 13, 2010 Report Share Posted September 13, 2010 GP is my go-to color. I have a mental recipe of GP and it looks good before the flake is added I've made and shot 100's of baits in this color, and know the recipe well enough to hit close to home. I've been asked to make a GP with blue flake chunk by a buddy. I'm having difficulties...it's almost like the brown qualities of GP disappear when blue flake is added and I'm left with a dark, dirty watermelon. The color really looks good prior to the flake added. After that...not so much Does the flake make the differance? What's going on? I've tried 4 seperate times today with varying amounts of colorant and still end up with less than stellar results. I want GP with blue flake that looks like GP with blue flake, not dirty water melon with blue flake. Using plastic, colorant, and fine flake from Dels. I couldn't tell you the # of drops of each color used I tried...I just eyeball it, but I make a good colored GP make up a small batch of your GP, add your blue flake and get your dirty watermelon, now, instead of getting PO'd at it, ad one drop at a time of red to the mix until you have the shade you are looking for Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Prager Posted September 13, 2010 Report Share Posted September 13, 2010 Does the flake make the differance? Yes, it does. Try adding a drop of brown or orange to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Posted September 13, 2010 Report Share Posted September 13, 2010 Agreed the flake makes a big differance in the color. The color and flake are mixing in your eyes and giving you the illusion of a differant color. Actually it is a diffrant color. That being said it would be hard to fix without seeing both colors side by side. One makers GP is alot differant than anothers. Frank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earthworm77 Posted September 13, 2010 Report Share Posted September 13, 2010 The blue flake can be discoloring the GP.....add a drop or two of rootbeer or brown. Put the blue flake in just before you are ready to pour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patrick reif Posted September 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2010 Guys, I thank you all for the input. I'm starting to wonder if the size of the flake is the problem. The color of the plastic in my latest shoots is running deep, but it's true to my goal. tomorrow I may need to add floured salt to lighten the tone, but if the flake size is the real problem, I need to make another order Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodkaman Posted September 14, 2010 Report Share Posted September 14, 2010 Patrick, I don't think the size of the flake is the problem. You are working with translucent colors and reflective flake. You are basically mixing light. You need to read up on 'additive color mixing', this is the theory of mixing different colored lights. The mixing of pigments produces different results and is called subtractive color mixing. The advice that you have received in the above posts is spot on and probably is the result of years of experience, you should probably at least try the ideas before you go to the shopping cart. The theory: blue + green = cyan Red + cyan = white so the red is cancelling out the cyan. Your color is not pure green, so you need to work around the red, as suggested: red, rootbeer, orange, brown. All good solid experienced based ideas. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gone2long Posted September 14, 2010 Report Share Posted September 14, 2010 Guys, I thank you all for the input. I'm starting to wonder if the size of the flake is the problem. The color of the plastic in my latest shoots is running deep, but it's true to my goal. tomorrow I may need to add floured salt to lighten the tone, but if the flake size is the real problem, I need to make another order That's a possibilty that the fine flake is almost acting as a colorant in of itself try the larger flake it should look considerably different.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...