Cami Posted October 27, 2010 Report Share Posted October 27, 2010 First of all I would like to thank Mr. Bojon and Mr. Nova for their great suggestions that permit me to transfer your knowledge in our Italian Tackle Making Forum: Black Bass & Co. My first 3D about your dipping technique carried out a really interesting in other Italian Lure Makers and one of more Expert of them about pouring – Il Gatto (The Cat) - has developed an interesting system to create big Tubes for big Pikes. After that we wrote a 4 hands Article on our Site: There is a little introduction to Fishing Tube Technique, an intuitive Video to create big Tubes and last the Italian translation of your dipping technique, I also added some infos about coloring Plastisol with Crayons. The pictures on the Site are examples of my first attempt to dipping … to see something better I linked Tackleunderground and Novalures Sites. To say thank you I would like to briefly describe the Pouring Tools to obtain big Tubes, because, believe me, I have never seen on any Sites a thing simple as this one. You need: · a plastic tube (an electrical kind in PVC for instance), with your preferred diameter and length; · a cork concave shaped; · a rod thin enough to not ruin the Tube; · current fresh water; · and … Plastisol, of course. Here you are some examples created by Il Gatto (the Genius Guy on the Video). He also liked to airbrush them. If you need some translations do not hesitate to contact me, on our Site you can find a lot of new Tackle Making Ideas … also about pouring plastic. FYI we used an Italian Plastisol developed by an Italian Compounder called Tecnoshad. Bye. Cami Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bear21211 Posted October 27, 2010 Report Share Posted October 27, 2010 Those are some Big Ole Nice Tubes. Great Work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patrick reif Posted October 28, 2010 Report Share Posted October 28, 2010 holy handful of plastic Batman, those are some huge tubes. I've thought about doing something similar for river muskies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB GONE Posted October 28, 2010 Report Share Posted October 28, 2010 WOW!!! I wish the link worked though..... Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nova Posted October 28, 2010 Report Share Posted October 28, 2010 (edited) Thanks for the nod Cami. Glad to help. Would be nice if the link worked. www.novalures.com Edited October 28, 2010 by nova Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cami Posted October 28, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2010 Thanks for the nod Cami. Glad to help. Would be nice if the link worked. www.novalures.com You're right, but yesterday evening I tried it and it worked, not now ... anyway: http://xoomer.virgil...jbur/a_tube.htm I tried now with preview and it works, but if don't again, then try to copy: xoomer.virgilio.it/cjbur/a_tube.htm Ah, I forgot a thing in my list: spraying oil inside electrical plastic pipe before pouring Plastisol. Enjoy the Italian Article and Video, no subtitle needed ... it's really intuitive. Bye Cami Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nova Posted October 28, 2010 Report Share Posted October 28, 2010 (edited) Watched the video; very interesting and a little scary with the water around the hot plastisol. Try using and aluminum pipe instead of the PVC pipe and with the Pam spray the tube will come out a lot easier. One question though; do you really fish bass with tubes that big? www.novalures.com Edited October 28, 2010 by nova Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted October 28, 2010 Report Share Posted October 28, 2010 Cami, I agree. Very interesting and ingenius method. Nova, I'm surprised you haven't heard of the Tora Tube, made famous on the west coast by Dan Warme. Here's a link: http://www.bassitudes.com/SearchResult.aspx?KeyWords=tora%20tube Start at the bottom of the page, and then hit next to see what's available. I've fished with Dan and he catches big bass with the big tube, which was orginally for salt water. I think they're made by Canyon Plastics, who still make the original tube, the Gitzit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cami Posted October 28, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2010 Watched the video; very interesting and a little scary with the water around the hot plastisol. Try using and aluminum pipe instead of the PVC pipe and with the Pam spray the tube will come out a lot easier. One question though; do you really fish bass with tubes that big? www.novalures.com Nova, about water around the hot Plastisol you are right: you have to pay a big care during the water cooling steps and heavy gloves are a must. Il Gatto recommends 4 thigs: 1) use the cork as an handle; 2) no water inside during first cooling steps, but only in last ones; 3) do not use a metallic pipe because the quicker heat transferring; 4) use a lot of spraying oil inside pipe before the pouring (he didn't spray a lot, too excited). Even if we've got BB, these big tubes are dedicated to our Pikes. Bye Cami Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nova Posted October 28, 2010 Report Share Posted October 28, 2010 Cami, I agree. Very interesting and ingenius method. Nova, I'm surprised you haven't heard of the Tora Tube, made famous on the west coast by Dan Warme. Here's a link: http://www.bassitudes.com/SearchResult.aspx?KeyWords=tora%20tube Start at the bottom of the page, and then hit next to see what's available. I've fished with Dan and he catches big bass with the big tube, which was orginally for salt water. I think they're made by Canyon Plastics, who still make the original tube, the Gitzit. I thought saltwater but I didn't think of the spinnerbait for a large tube. My first thought was where would you get a 10/0 EWG; lol. www.novalures.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted October 28, 2010 Report Share Posted October 28, 2010 I thought saltwater but I didn't think of the spinnerbait for a large tube. My first thought was where would you get a 10/0 EWG; lol. www.novalures.com Dan Warme told me he was in the shop when someone brought out the big saltwater tubes, and he asked for a couple to play around with. The rest, as they say, is history. It takes a creative mind to adapt something to a new purpose, and he surely has that. Dan's won a lot of bass tournaments, and a lot of money, with the Tora Tube, and caught a lot of big fish. I've seen him throw it, and he works it like a spinnerbait, shallow, medium, and deep, depending on where he thinks the fish are located. To me, it looks like a small ball of shad in the water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bojon Posted October 29, 2010 Report Share Posted October 29, 2010 Dan Warme told me he was in the shop when someone brought out the big saltwater tubes, and he asked for a couple to play around with. The rest, as they say, is history. It takes a creative mind to adapt something to a new purpose, and he surely has that. Dan's won a lot of bass tournaments, and a lot of money, with the Tora Tube, and caught a lot of big fish. I've seen him throw it, and he works it like a spinnerbait, shallow, medium, and deep, depending on where he thinks the fish are located. To me, it looks like a small ball of shad in the water. For years I have been helpng guys wanting to make their own big tubes for trout.Most of the large trout caught that I know of were caught on big tubes.One of the guys I taught how to make a huge tube caught a 40 pound lake trout.Now that is some fish.It looked really good on the photo.Made me kind'a proud.I have caught many large fish in a bunch of different species on tubes,but I admit I fish the tubes mostly,only changing size,and color. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bojon Posted October 29, 2010 Report Share Posted October 29, 2010 Nova, about water around the hot Plastisol you are right: you have to pay a big care during the water cooling steps and heavy gloves are a must. Il Gatto recommends 4 thigs: 1) use the cork as an handle; 2) no water inside during first cooling steps, but only in last ones; 3) do not use a metallic pipe because the quicker heat transferring; 4) use a lot of spraying oil inside pipe before the pouring (he didn't spray a lot, too excited). Even if we've got BB, these big tubes are dedicated to our Pikes. Bye Cami Agree about the water,I surely would wear saftey goggles.More spray inside would help you get the tube out.I tried the plastic pipe for dipping years ago for the horizontal dipping method,and as I remember it wasn't too good.But the way you do it it would be perfect.I would recommend that you try to get the forward 40% of the tube about twice as thick as the tail,this would give you a bit more action. Thanks for sharing the videos.I haven't been able to post photos or videos on this site.I know I'm a computer dummie! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted October 29, 2010 Report Share Posted October 29, 2010 (edited) Cami, I love how you figured out how to do it your way. You might try using a bucket of water to dip the pipe into for cooling. Running water makes me really nervous around hot plastic, too. Edited October 29, 2010 by mark poulson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted October 29, 2010 Report Share Posted October 29, 2010 For years I have been helpng guys wanting to make their own big tubes for trout.Most of the large trout caught that I know of were caught on big tubes.One of the guys I taught how to make a huge tube caught a 40 pound lake trout.Now that is some fish.It looked really good on the photo.Made me kind'a proud.I have caught many large fish in a bunch of different species on tubes,but I admit I fish the tubes mostly,only changing size,and color. I've seen how effective big tubes can be. You have to tie one on and throw it for a while to get bit. It will catch smaller fish, too, but, generally, it gets the bigger bites, but those are less frequent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...