Frank Posted November 13, 2010 Report Share Posted November 13, 2010 I made this video to show how you can make two color baits in a decent time without a ton of molds. I know there are alot of guys that say it is hard to do production without alot of molds. Now again this is just my way not the only way. But if you can time me on this you can see that it is just a matter having a system that works for you. And it is a one man band thing I dont usually have any help. My son did it in HD also so it is a little shakey. Frank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted November 13, 2010 Report Share Posted November 13, 2010 Frank, That is a slick method. You make it look easy. I use a cajun meat injector, and now I see how much easier it is to use a real injector. I hate you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Posted November 13, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2010 I make it look easy because it is easy. There are some that make it sound like it is so dificult that many wont try it. As you can see here it is not rocket science. Some say that the injector system I use wont work because the adapter block cavity is to long and there is alot of waste. The sprues from the block are going in a cup that will be reheated and used again. The only real waste is on top of the baits which if you have time you can but in half and seperate them in there recpective cups. When I first got this injector I made a video, boy I have come a long way. Anyway I hope anyone that looks at this video trys some day to do it for themselves. Good luck to all that want to try. Frank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikePaintsBaits Posted November 13, 2010 Report Share Posted November 13, 2010 Frank , Pretty Dam Kool , I'll just stick with you making them. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rugbyfisherman Posted November 14, 2010 Report Share Posted November 14, 2010 What are you using to keep your plastic warm as you work? Is that a hot plate down there? Working up here in Canada in a unheated shop the plastic gets cold in seconds - that system, however, looks great. Thanks for sharing your tips. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayburnGuy Posted November 14, 2010 Report Share Posted November 14, 2010 Frank, I'm not a plastics guy, but that is one great video. Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodkaman Posted November 14, 2010 Report Share Posted November 14, 2010 Frank, I'm not a plastics guy, but that is one great video. Ben I agree, great vid. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Posted November 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2010 What are you using to keep your plastic warm as you work? Is that a hot plate down there? Working up here in Canada in a unheated shop the plastic gets cold in seconds - that system, however, looks great. Thanks for sharing your tips. It is a high sided griddle with a plate of aluminium on the side where the drip will be. And on the other side is basically a bar that keep the handles of the pyrex from spinning when you stir. I have said this before but if you did not catch it hear it is again. I use four cups, two pyrex cups that have the plastic in it. The other two are on the side of each cup that is where I am putting the sprues and scraps. When I gather a few I put the secondary cups back in the micro and heat them while I am still shooting with the larger first cups. I usually never put the first cups back in the micro as long as I dont stop the sequence. As you draw the plastic down the sides build up a layer that I also put in the sprue cup and remelt. The remelt part of my sequence is the only part that I left out of the video. I think it is much easier to see something being done than having people tell you it doesnt work. Frank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSC Posted November 14, 2010 Report Share Posted November 14, 2010 Great Video ... I know this will help others Thanx JSC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bryanmc Posted November 14, 2010 Report Share Posted November 14, 2010 It is a high sided griddle with a plate of aluminium on the side where the drip will be. And on the other side is basically a bar that keep the handles of the pyrex from spinning when you stir. Could you post a pic of this? Sounds like a really good setup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Posted November 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2010 Could you post a pic of this? Sounds like a really good setup. Here you go. Let me explain the bar thing. It is there to keep the pyrex from turning while stirring. In the pic is a one cup pyrex but the same setup can be used with a two cup but when you get to a four cup it will have to be removed for rooms sake. On the sides are the small lab style pyrex that the sprues are held in and kept worm till you reheat. After you reheat just add it back to the first cup, this brings up the temp so you can keep going. Frank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bryanmc Posted November 14, 2010 Report Share Posted November 14, 2010 How did you attach the bar? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Posted November 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2010 How did you attach the bar? It has a spring clamp that is on the handle. One note on the bottom of the pic the handle is removed so it does not hang over the table. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bryanmc Posted November 15, 2010 Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 Thanks Frank... That pic makes it all come together for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blanx Posted November 15, 2010 Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 (edited) great vide frank, what temp setting do you have it set to? i just happen to have an extra one just like that laying around doing nothing but collecting dust. also what kinda gloves are you using? Edited November 15, 2010 by blanx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Posted November 15, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 great vide frank, what temp setting do you have it set to? i just happen to have an extra one just like that laying around doing nothing but collecting dust. also what kinda gloves are you using? I have it set at 400 deg. As high as it goes. There is alot of heat loss but it works pretty good. The gloves are from Home Depot 5 pairs for 5 dollars. They work good as long as you dont hold anything hot for to long. Once in a while I take them off and grab a mold or injector and realize how much they really help. Frank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveh Posted November 15, 2010 Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 nice work frank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB GONE Posted November 15, 2010 Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 I love it Frank!!! I wish I could de-mold as fast. My frog molds require a longer wait or else you get the dreaded dent! I am rethinking my system now after watching you work. Taught me some time saving tips I am sure! I will say, that laminate block will get your bait a perfect laminate everytime. Right down to the tiniest part of the mold. Thanks again for sharing!!!!!! Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Posted November 15, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 I love it Frank!!! I wish I could de-mold as fast. My frog molds require a longer wait or else you get the dreaded dent! I am rethinking my system now after watching you work. Taught me some time saving tips I am sure! I will say, that laminate block will get your bait a perfect laminate everytime. Right down to the tiniest part of the mold. Thanks again for sharing!!!!!! Jim You bring up a good point Jim. If the mold has a cavity that is real thick yes you will have to wait longer. In that case I would get another mold and color and then do it in between the thicker baits. You know maybe make some sticks or other popular items you have. That will give you something to do and not rush things. I have been in a production enviroment for a long time at work and there is no set way of doing things as long as you keep doing something. On the twinjector my opinion on its consistancy is the bar that presses the plunger down will not let you push one more than the other. And if you want swirls remove the top cross bar then push them at seperate time to achieve any design you want. Opps did I write that down that was a secret. Frank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerfire Posted November 17, 2010 Report Share Posted November 17, 2010 Awesome information! I have wanted to see some action shots of the two color injector. I have thought about purchasing one, but it seemed like more work. Now, I know how it really works. Thanks for sharing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tt400 Posted November 23, 2010 Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 I did not think you could put Pyrex onto a hotplate without the risk of it exploding? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB GONE Posted November 23, 2010 Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 I did not think you could put Pyrex onto a hotplate without the risk of it exploding? Only if the pyrex is cold. Once you have the hot plastic in it, the pyrex is near the hotplate temp and has no problems at all. You risk breaking your pyrex when they are super hot and you put them on a cold aluminum mold or into cold water. The drastic temperature change is the problem, especially if they have a tiny crack or nick in the cup. Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sniper Posted November 24, 2010 Report Share Posted November 24, 2010 Nice video Frank, thanks for sharing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Posted November 24, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2010 To all that care to look I posted a set of video how tos in the soft bait tutorials section. Thanks Frank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB GONE Posted November 24, 2010 Report Share Posted November 24, 2010 Frank: I to use this block but am still having problems with it. Not due to the design but due to my ability to hold the block and duel injectors when I move from mold to mold. I watch you hold the block with one hand but my fingers do not stretch across the block to hold it so I revert to attempting to hold the block in the center by the wing nut. After a mold or 2, one side of the injector or other slightly lifts and I have plastic leaking all over my molds and table. Seems I can only get 3 molds at a time finished and then the block and injectors get seperated. Anybody else use this system and have a suggestion on keeping the pieces together as you move from mold to mold? It really is slowing me down as this point. If the injector block was an inch shorter I could grab it like you do Frank. Good news is that the baits you get done are as good as you can get with a laminate. Open to suggestions..... Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
