Nutty Idea (think Their Spreading)

[Madeye]

I have been racking my brain to come up with an effecient way to shoot 2 colour bait using an injector on multi cavity molds.

Have used the alfoil method with some success but have found it anoying pulling the baits off, repositioning and the re shooting. On a side note have found baking paper to work better than alfoil

Here is my idea. put the molds together one side normal and one side with the flat side facing in. Spray the flat side with cooking oil first.

This will allow you to shoot half, pull the mold appart, flip the flat side around, and then re shoot.

Problem is at the moment when you put the molds together you are left with a halfcircle as the sprew.

Soloution:

1. Make an adapter that shoots half circle.

2. When mold makers make thier molds, Make one half have a sprew that is a full circle rather than half. Then when you flip one side you still get a full sprew to shoot into.

Hope this makes sense.

[GB GONE]

I like your "outside the box" thinking.....

Jim

[toadfrog]

Now that's what I'm talking about. Unsupervised men can do anything. There is always two sides to every coin. Good idea. If you use the bolts put a plastic washer on them. If you use a smooth jaw vise to clamp, fold a piece of card board around the mold before clamping. Protect your molds their like our children or we wouldn't keep letting them in and out of the house.Thanks for posting a nutty idea.

[GB GONE]

You do know that the blending block fron Basstackle can be used to do perfect laminates on hand pour molds. I use mine all the time. On injection molds, it works perfectly as well. Bear has a laminate system for injection molds also.

Just making sure you are aware as your idea is a good one however I just used my blending block and go mold to mold without any of the hassles or manipulations of the mold.

Jim

Edited December 8, 2010 by ghostbaits

[nova]

Have you tried plumbers teflon tape instead of aluminum foil? Nothing sticks to teflon.

Just a thought.

www.novalures.com

[tigerfire]

You do know that the blending block fron Basstackle can be used to do perfect laminates on hand pour molds. I use mine all the time. On injection molds, it works perfectly as well. Bear has a laminate system for injection molds also.

Just making sure you are aware as your idea is a good one however I just used my blending block and go mold to mold without any of the hassles or manipulations of the mold.

Jim

Jim,

You mentioned the blending block on hand pour molds. I'm assumng that you are injecting them. Have you tried to hand pour into the blending block? I'm just curious if that would work or if it's just another nutty idea.

[GB GONE]

Sorry bud, hand pouring into the blending block is nutty! The plastic would plug the block almost instantly due to the plastic flow area being small. It plugs quicker than I'd like with an injector!!!

To add, you would not get a laminate hand pouring into the block anyway as you could not control the 2 streams of plastic well enough. The injectors that are attached together force the delivery of plastic from each injector at the exact same flow rate. That is what ultimately produces a good laminate. Also, plastic temps play a part.

Jim

Edited December 8, 2010 by ghostbaits

[tigerfire]

Thanks for the info Jim.

I'm scheduled to have a conversation with Santa shortly, so atleast I know to ask for the injector also!

What temperature do I want my plastic?

[Madeye]

i didnt think it worked on injection molds.

I assumed the colours would mix in the over fill sprew or that it would shoot half the bait one colour and half the other.

[GB GONE]

You want your colors to be close in temp, that is all that matters. To hot and your glitter may fall to one side of the bait though.

As far as the blending block working on multiple cavity molds, my molds are up to 3 cavities and they shoot perfect 99% of the time. The blending block was made for injection molds, I just use it on my hand pour molds sometimes as well. Very rare to have a blemished bait. I think Frank can comment as well.

Here is a couple shots....

Caney Creek 3MD XL

Caney Creek Birch Bug

The scond bait is very thin in a lot of areas and even down to the thinest part, it is laminated with the 2 colors.

Jim

Edited December 8, 2010 by ghostbaits

[Madeye]

Not only are you baits a work of art jim but you camera work is exceptional.

Any hints on taking photos of baits.

[GB GONE]

Any hints on taking photos of baits.

Thank you for the kind words on the baits and photos. I have no clue how I get my decent shots now! Sad but true! I have been able to find a spot that seems to just get the right amount of light and at the right angle. I did get a new Fuji camera as well but nothing fancy. I am sure others that have expertise can give you tips. I'd start another thread in the forum...

Good luck!!!!

Jim

[tigerfire]

Those are nice baits!

[GB GONE]

Thanks... Want some samples????

Jim

[smallmouthaholic]

Single cavity injection molds are a piece of cake for two-color injecting. Multi-cavity stick molds from Bears also shoot two-color baits w/ relative ease and consistency

[toadfrog]

The best part of NUTTY IDEAS is the fact that you can do something without spending a lot of or any cash and achieve good results. In this day and age The attitude is total instant gratification. Buy it don't build it . This frame of mind hurts ingenuity. I like you folks that think around a problem and take it where no man has gone before . To quote an old star treck phrase . Its what made AMERICA great .

[GB GONE]

True to an extent. I also want to be sure to explain that there are existing alternatives available, especially in production type senarios. For production, the manipulation of the molds or a partition in a mold to make a laminate is not an effective solution. Also, many times information regarding an existing solution is not readily available or is confusing so there is an attempt to re-invent the wheel when the wheel exists in some form.

In production situations or when I am making things for buddies, time is money. I also look for the most effective use of my time so the family gets their proper time.

Jim

[toadfrog]

For those of you who are in the business I STAND CORRECTED on all counts. I've not been in business for more than a decade. Poke a little fun ,have some grins and giggles thats all I do. By the way one of my nutty ideas is for sale in the form of a mold for plastics. Didn't cost the guy a dime to put it into production on my part. I hope in the future to do the same for others As long as I have fun.