CTBASS56 Posted December 21, 2010 Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 Hello folks, been a while since i last posted however i have what i THINK is an interesting question.... Before injecting my stick baits, can i place a weight (splitshot, nail weight, bb's, rubber internal tube weights-not sure what there called, etc. etc.) in to the center of each cavity of my mold??? I am trying to add weight to my stick baits (i understand the normal way-salt,sand...fine, course, etc.) Will the plastic inject properly? will the weight end up being exposed(because it sinks in the hot plastic)? will the weight be pushed to the end of the cavity? OR, will it work perfectly as i am imagining(the weight staying in the center of the cavity, and in the center of the bait)??? And, if you agree, what types of different materials do you think I could use aside from lead (tiny shards of glass, rubber, wood, wire) any ideas???? What are your opinions?????? thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodkaman Posted December 21, 2010 Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 Before injecting my stick baits, can i place a weight (splitshot, nail weight, bb's, rubber internal tube weights-not sure what there called, etc. etc.) in to the center of each cavity of my mold???Will the plastic inject properly? will the weight end up being exposed(because it sinks in the hot plastic)? will the weight be pushed to the end of the cavity? OR, will it work perfectly as i am imagining(the weight staying in the center of the cavity, and in the center of the bait)??? And, if you agree, what types of different materials do you think I could use aside from lead (tiny shards of glass, rubber, wood, wire) any ideas???? Interesting idea. You should just do it and see, next time you are pouring. I am fairly sure that the weight will end up on the tail though. The weight may be slightly exposed, but you can always dip in clear. This should prevent the weight from eventually comming out, whether it is enough to stop the lead from flying out during a vigorous cast, I am not so sure. These things have to be tried, fortunately in this case, at very little cost and effort. The main problem is to hold the weight in position while you pour. I can think of two ideas straight off: 1. CA glue a thin thread. This should be thin enough not to cause flashing when trapped in the mold. With this method, you could even hold the weight central. But way too fiddly for any kind of production rate. 2. install a retaining pin/wire in the mold. This will stop the weight blowing back to the tail. This would be simple to do, but would entail mold modifications and render the mold unsaleable. I would suggest making a test mold from plaster, to test the idea before attacking expensive ally molds. 3. Steel balls and strong magnets? Naaah! I am sure more ideas will be fourth comming. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patrick reif Posted December 21, 2010 Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 I think that it'll end up on one side or the other if it doesn't get pushed to the rear. With a stick bait, it's not a big deal. On second thought, it'll end up in the rear unless you have figured out a way to keep the weight suspended when the mold is stood on end. Titanium dust in the plastisol??? sand and salt is cheaper and microwave better. How bout a swimbait jig in ultra low weights? Could do it with RTV or POP or just cut down a jig from a mass produced mold once poured. 1/64 or 1/32oz with a #1 EWG worm hook. Cheaper, easier, and available. If it was me, I'd add salt, sand and softener til I got what I wanted Not trying to be a know-it-all or a smartass. I've had 6 beers on an empty stomach after working all night, and this is when I like to post the most. LOL goodnight guys...errrr... good day??? Anyway, good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rugbyfisherman Posted December 21, 2010 Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 If the weighting material is not in suspension the balance and action of the bait will be ruined. The weight will just end up in the tail. The worm would then probably twist in the line due to the tail sinking. Tungsten powder or silica powder would be the best bet for adding weight. I think that it'll end up on one side or the other if it doesn't get pushed to the rear. With a stick bait, it's not a big deal. On second thought, it'll end up in the rear unless you have figured out a way to keep the weight suspended when the mold is stood on end. Titanium dust in the plastisol??? sand and salt is cheaper and microwave better. How bout a swimbait jig in ultra low weights? Could do it with RTV or POP or just cut down a jig from a mass produced mold once poured. 1/64 or 1/32oz with a #1 EWG worm hook. Cheaper, easier, and available. If it was me, I'd add salt, sand and softener til I got what I wanted Not trying to be a know-it-all or a smartass. I've had 6 beers on an empty stomach after working all night, and this is when I like to post the most. LOL goodnight guys...errrr... good day??? Anyway, good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patrick reif Posted December 21, 2010 Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 Is tungsten or silica cheaper than sand or salt? Will it perform better? Under what circumstances? A paneling nail or a split shot won't do it. I'm asking because I want to learn. I go from cheap fixes and work my way up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodkaman Posted December 21, 2010 Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 You can get lead wire at the plumbers. A coil of this around the mid section might solve some of the problems. Cheap enough to try anyway. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB GONE Posted December 21, 2010 Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 (edited) Be sure to wear the proper personal protective gear if you use silica or tungsten. Both have dust that can get into your lungs and kill you. Best thing I have found is to use a wacky jig head (Kappu, Gamakatsu) and leave the weight out of my sticks all together. The action is better, I don't have to sweat the salt getting distributed evenly and I can make better colors. Of course, this is just for my fishing needs. If you sell them, that might not fly. Jim Edited December 21, 2010 by ghostbaits Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...