mark poulson Posted February 19, 2011 Report Share Posted February 19, 2011 Andy "Cooch" Cuccia, a west coast Delta legend and guide, is looking for someone who will work with him and his circle of friends to duplicate some of the super soft worms that they can't get anymore. I suggested he look here, so, if you see a post from him, it's legit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB GONE Posted February 19, 2011 Report Share Posted February 19, 2011 East coast guys can get it done!!! LOL!!! Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powerworm Posted February 19, 2011 Report Share Posted February 19, 2011 so can misplaced southeners in the upper midwest!!! LMAO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smallmouthaholic Posted February 19, 2011 Report Share Posted February 19, 2011 I wonder- with all the custom pouring West coast guys, they would come here? Did Don Iovino move or are they looking for a c-h-e-a-p price? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsworms Posted February 19, 2011 Report Share Posted February 19, 2011 I didn't even know "west coast" was a term in hand-pouring anymore. Considering some of the work I see on here, that term should be "coast to coast". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nova Posted February 19, 2011 Report Share Posted February 19, 2011 I didn't even know "west coast" was a term in hand-pouring anymore. Considering some of the work I see on here, that term should be "coast to coast". Chris, I think you're still too localized. There are some really good pourers from everywhere. The world is a very small place. www.novalures.com 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travis Posted February 19, 2011 Report Share Posted February 19, 2011 I still consider "west coast" to mean a very different thing. The pouring and guys using west coast differ considerably from ther rest of the custom "pouring". Of course we also have various degrees between the two.. West coast I think of a flat sided soft baits that result in incredible action, and incredible colors. The baits have incredible "depth" to them in different aspects. Care is taken in pouring with emphasis in layering, color selection, etc... so you get remarkable blended color combinations when viewed at different angles. It is a much more difficult task to learn and pull off. They are refined baits that to me are like art. Then we have what has morphed to meet the demands of the southern fishing scene. These guys could care less about the "fru fru" west coast style of pouring. Many are just wanting a bait in "name a companies color". Flat sided bait aren't all that big of deal, most of action will be imparted becasue of weight and speed that they are fished at, soft enough so their is some action but they don't want it to rip apart too easy. Colors are more in your face, opaque with a heavy hand on glitter. How it is poured isn't as important as the actaul pouring is just a means to get plastic into the mold. The pouring process itself doesn't play a vital role, as in west coast pours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powerworm Posted February 19, 2011 Report Share Posted February 19, 2011 i remember my best year of handpouring custom dropshot baits was the year ike won the AOY on the final event at table rock lake where i lived at the time. we had so many requests during the prior 6 months for baits with veins and hilites it was so much fun to duplicate for 1/2 the price what they were paying for out west and with some creative mold makers help we blew away alot of peoples minds! but alas i am along ways removed from handpouring but still have the creative mind but it just doesnt sell as well as solid or laminate baits do now IMO?? maybe they do on a more regional level and that doesnt mean other baits arent as productive its all choices n what you prefer to fish with and where Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsworms Posted February 19, 2011 Report Share Posted February 19, 2011 Just when I posted "coast to coast", it hit me. There are so many incredibly talented pourers all over the world. My fault, fellas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powerworm Posted February 20, 2011 Report Share Posted February 20, 2011 i agree als there is a gemtlemanan hour west of me that is like a self taught guru on spitting veins on incredily thin and narrow baits and his set up is so neat and simple Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pitbull Baits Posted February 20, 2011 Report Share Posted February 20, 2011 i agree als there is a gemtlemanan hour west of me that is like a self taught guru on spitting veins on incredily thin and narrow baits and his set up is so neat and simple You talking about DC Baits (John)? He is from the west cost. He lives maybe 30 mins from me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powerworm Posted February 20, 2011 Report Share Posted February 20, 2011 yep david hes great at those tiny baits!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nova Posted February 20, 2011 Report Share Posted February 20, 2011 yep david hes great at those tiny baits!! Does he have a website? I'd like to see his work. www.novalures.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pitbull Baits Posted February 20, 2011 Report Share Posted February 20, 2011 lol I forgot his name was thinking it was John lol. I don't think he has a website but he sells and has a store on ebay. Here's his user name tossabout store name is D.C. Baits. He's got stuff listed all the time. I check he has a bunch up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB GONE Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 I still consider "west coast" to mean a very different thing. The pouring and guys using west coast differ considerably from ther rest of the custom "pouring". Of course we also have various degrees between the two.. West coast I think of a flat sided soft baits that result in incredible action, and incredible colors. The baits have incredible "depth" to them in different aspects. Care is taken in pouring with emphasis in layering, color selection, etc... so you get remarkable blended color combinations when viewed at different angles. It is a much more difficult task to learn and pull off. They are refined baits that to me are like art. Then we have what has morphed to meet the demands of the southern fishing scene. These guys could care less about the "fru fru" west coast style of pouring. Many are just wanting a bait in "name a companies color". Flat sided bait aren't all that big of deal, most of action will be imparted becasue of weight and speed that they are fished at, soft enough so their is some action but they don't want it to rip apart too easy. Colors are more in your face, opaque with a heavy hand on glitter. How it is poured isn't as important as the actaul pouring is just a means to get plastic into the mold. The pouring process itself doesn't play a vital role, as in west coast pours. While this may somewhat be true, a blanket statement on how we "pour" on the east coast cannot be made. Many can, and still do, replicate the "west coast" style of pouring when asked to. I will agree that it is the exception, not the rule. I think the "old school" pourers make better stuff than any robot at Roboworm myself!! Serious skills! The problem was/is, many of the "west coast" baits (super super soft, little to no flake) are not as effective over this way. Super super soft is ineffective in the super super slop. In addition, many "west coast" colors are for the west coast. We were being left out when I got started. While hand pouring, in any fashion, is going by the wayside because many cannot do or choose not to do, it is still a very viable alternative to injection in any fashion. Colors can be made via hand pour that cannot be made via injection. True art as stated! For me, being able to blur the lines between hand pouring and hand injecting is where the challenge is right now. I can get colors now that cannot be done via strict hand pouring or strict injection. Has to be a combination. The colors can be amazing and rival anything I have seen out there, even though they may come partially from a hand injector. I think I have said this before Travis, anyone with any sense can pull a plunger up and push down. Look close at some of the pics and see the curled glitter or by a bag and smell the burned plastic/flake. Sad that some customers are getting those baits and they never try "hand poured" again because of the bad baits. Guess that is with any market out there but you would NEVER see that from a west coast hand pour. Unless the bait is perfection, it probably does not leave the shop. With all that being said, us rednecks can be refined at times!!!!! (but not fru-fru eee) LOL!!!! Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nova Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 Well said Jim. www.novalures.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
