bribass Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 Alright guys I need some help!!!! Ive been a long time browser over here and coming from bears baits but need some help from everyone! I eye and dip all our frogs.... im now noticing that the "clear coat layer" is easy to take right off of the entire frog in basically all one piece. The tricky part is this .... I have some frogs around from when I dipped them back in september still and they are impossible to pull the clear coat off of! i couldnt do it if i tried and picked at it forever .... but my most recent frogs you can pull of the entire clear coat in basically all one piece with little difficulty. The only variables I can think of are... temperature... it was warm in september and now its freezing.. so ice cold frogs getting dipped now. And #2 i used to wait after dipping and air dry before i laid them back down to cure... but lately to speed time up I have dunked them in water to quick dry them and then lay them down. (saw it on a video onTU) Plastic i am using and always have is mf so that is not a changing variable. I have a few thousand frogs out there and it worries me to think you never get a second chance at a 1st impression kind of thing. PLEASE HELP Brian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longhorn Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 That's a tough one. Are the frogs you're dipping fresh? meaning they haven't had time to make a little oil on the surface. I really think though it's the temperature. Either too cold to even bond slightly or even may be condensing a little moisture in between. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nova Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 That's a tough one. Are the frogs you're dipping fresh? meaning they haven't had time to make a little oil on the surface. I really think though it's the temperature. Either too cold to even bond slightly or even may be condensing a little moisture in between. Also; the way I understand it; as time goes by the oils from the plastic start to surface. This may also hinder the bonding. You're right Longhorn, that is a tough one. www.novalures.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bojon Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 Sounds tough,as the others said.You may try washing them with Dawn dishwasing detergent,then drying with a paper towel,then dip in clear.I do this with some of my painted tubes,and it seems to work pretty good.I started to final dip in clear because I use Acrilc paints on my tubes,because the vapors of other paints bothered me.I think you will find that oils coming to the surface might be the problem.Let use know how you make out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 (edited) It may be that the cold temperatures prevent them from offgassing all the solvents before you dip, and those solvents are brought back up to the surface by the dipping process. Try hitting the frogs with a hair dryer a couple of times before you dip. Edited February 28, 2011 by mark poulson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...