backwoods1975 Posted November 1, 2013 Report Share Posted November 1, 2013 I know this is bringing up an old thread. But does anyone know if the problems listed in thread have been addressed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smallmouthaholic Posted November 1, 2013 Report Share Posted November 1, 2013 (edited) I used the sample from lureworks but there was still a bubbling problem on the intial heat-up in a micro-wave.(this happens when I heat clear plastisol for nose dipping) Problem solved-scoop/skim off the top loaded w/ micro-bubbles and put them on a hard surface. Once you do this and can nose/eye dip w/ out micro bubbles you're home free since required re-heats do not produce micro bubbles once the plastic has initially been heated. Save your bubbled -hard plastic and put it in your presto pot w/ stirror and use it w/dark colors. BTW- a 55 gallon shippment Chemionics did not bubble for the 1st 3 months but then after produced mega micro-bubbles in the micro wave. MF still is the best plastic I..M.E. that produces next to no micro bubbles when heated in a micro wave w/ varied heat and time duration settings and holds its clear color the longest. Spare me w/all the "expert" comments & different ways to heat in a micro-wave as I use 4 different settings and time durations over a 4 minute period. I'll refrain from posting negative comments on Calhoun's and Lure craft plastisols. Edited November 1, 2013 by smallmouthaholic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backwoods1975 Posted November 1, 2013 Report Share Posted November 1, 2013 Thank you. I just shoot for myself and all the micro bubbles dont really bother me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big will's customs Posted November 10, 2013 Report Share Posted November 10, 2013 I use the medium , the medium/soft ,and the soft wok great for me just keep it stirred and I hardly get any bubbles it will feel sticky for a little bit but I lay them out on a towel and next morning they are great.i pour mostly at night so the next night I pack them up . my guys seem to like them a lot more then the ones I made with the m-f plastic I use to use...god bless Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carolinamike Posted November 11, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2013 For the price its hard to beat lureworks plastisol. Some people have a micro bubble problem while others dont. I have noticed a couple of posts here lately about yellowing plastic. This year at Icast lureworks had on display a plastic that they kept heated for over 8 hours with no discoloring, it is specially formulated for things like doing a clear coat dip. A couple of people on the forum was there and seen it but I have yet to see anyone post about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baitjunkys Posted November 11, 2013 Report Share Posted November 11, 2013 Mike, what is the cost on it. I have found with anything in life. There is always better. Just depends on your wallets depth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big will's customs Posted November 11, 2013 Report Share Posted November 11, 2013 I will bubble if you don't stir it but if u stir it a lot I have no problems at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big will's customs Posted November 11, 2013 Report Share Posted November 11, 2013 hey there mike that must be there clearasol .the thin formula for dipping and coating.... I got a bit of it from a friend that had got a sample.. he's not much on making worms so he regifted most of it too me... any how I really like it !!! I think that's its a real game changer for us small timers.. was awesome I had it heated for nearly 13 hrs. worked great the whole night and couldn't tell a difference in baits that were done first or last. lureworks spike-it has changed the game for sure with this and many of there other products in my book. they have my business hands down...god bless Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baitjunkys Posted November 11, 2013 Report Share Posted November 11, 2013 So u heated the same batch for 13 hrs straight? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big will's customs Posted November 11, 2013 Report Share Posted November 11, 2013 use same batch I seen the youtube icast video where they did a batch for like 8 hours and I wanted to test it out myself to see... was surprised but worked awesome for me....god bless 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carolinamike Posted November 11, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2013 Ive talked to Bruce and I know its been tested for at least 12 hours, so 13 dosen't sound unreasonable. Its been a while since I have checked prices on plastisol but the last I checked price per pound, lureworks was the cheapest. More expensive dose not necesarily mean better when it comes to plastisol but every expirienced person understands it boils down to a personal preferance but there must not be too much wrong with it considering companies like Pure fishing(berkley) purchase it by the tanker load. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baitjunkys Posted November 11, 2013 Report Share Posted November 11, 2013 If people are willing to pay. Companies will keep making better products. On price I was just refering to the clearasol. I would assume more r and d more cost to the consumer. I agree personal prefrence 100%. I would imagine most of the large companies are selling huge quantitys to major manufacturers. They wouldnt be in business so long if they were not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carolinamike Posted November 11, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2013 Yeah you're right, with 20 different formulas its just natural to expect different prices. The thing about these folks is as large as they are they are still very curtious and hand pour friendly, most of the other large companies want to sell by the drum with 5 gallon being the least amount they will sell or either there is a middle man involved. LW is manufactorer direct, there are other companies that manufactor their own and target, specifically, the hand pour folks. LW is the main supplier for most of your large bait manufactorers, and its really nice that they still have a heart for the little guy as well. You have to admit, that a plastic that stays hot for 8 to 13 hours is pretty impressive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baitjunkys Posted November 11, 2013 Report Share Posted November 11, 2013 It is impresive. I went just about 2 hrs the other day. You guys challenged me now. What temp? Im gonna try it for at least 8. My new setup I can keep it within 2 degrees consitantly. Im always up to try something. Lmao. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIARS CORNER Posted November 11, 2013 Report Share Posted November 11, 2013 I use LW they are great people Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroutSupport.com Posted November 12, 2013 Report Share Posted November 12, 2013 I've been wondering if you cold make dots\eyes\bloodlines in your mold then pour hot plastisol it would cure the gel a lure? Anybody try that? I know you can put the cured eyes they make... which I am pretty sure is pourasol ... you can put them in a mold and the plastic will heat sufficiently to the eyes and it sticks well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baitjunkys Posted November 12, 2013 Report Share Posted November 12, 2013 I know you can put the cured eyes they make... which I am pretty sure is pourasol ... you can put them in a mold and the plastic will heat sufficiently to the eyes and it sticks well. you can glue them on as well, they sell the glue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigLewers Posted December 4, 2013 Report Share Posted December 4, 2013 I love the LW plastic. After using CCM and Chemonics, LW is awesome. The cost is low, the product results are fantastic. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJK Posted December 11, 2013 Report Share Posted December 11, 2013 I love the LW plastic. After using CCM and Chemonics, LW is awesome. The cost is low, the product results are fantastic. Big lewers which plastic are you using Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigLewers Posted December 11, 2013 Report Share Posted December 11, 2013 I use the pourasol med. Cooks clear as can be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJK Posted December 11, 2013 Report Share Posted December 11, 2013 What are u cooking in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toadfrog Posted December 12, 2013 Report Share Posted December 12, 2013 I've read this entire thread . I would pose two questions to the microwave users having bubble issues . Have you tried heating the plastisol in a covered container . Next question have you tried heating plastisol in something other than pyrex . Say ceramic containers . Enquireing minds want to know .LOL I haven't found a plastic I hated. Some a little harder to work with for one reason or another . So having said that Please feel free to send me any plastic you hate . I'll turn it into something even if it may not be fishing related .Might just have to make a giant tude jig 12"long and 3" around or a snake lure 3' long . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlowFISH Posted December 12, 2013 Report Share Posted December 12, 2013 I heat in a micro with a silicone measuring cup... uncovered - and got the bubbles... never tried covering it. J. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toadfrog Posted December 13, 2013 Report Share Posted December 13, 2013 I use ceramic because it keeps the plastic hot longer . It won't as a rule blow up if you sit it on a cold surface by mistake . It is cheaper than pyrex . It comes in more shapes and sizes than you can imagine . You can get it made to your specs at ceramic shops . Even divided cups if the shop is experienced .Last but not least the bubble problem seems less . My self I don't give a hoot about bubbles and niether do the fish . The people that use my lures do'nt care if the odd one has some bubbles .I've repeatedly noticed that soon as you turn your hobby into a business it stops being about art and the fun of it .A lot of people stop trying to think outside the box and just settle for the norm . There are some creative minds on this site and some cool dudes .Bet a nickle that somebody comes up with the answer to the problems with plastisols . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smallmouthaholic Posted December 13, 2013 Report Share Posted December 13, 2013 (edited) Toadfrog- all things being equal-some plastisols foam and bubble worse then others in a microwave.Minnow colors get heated from the start in presto pots w/ stirrors.One needs to determine which works best for their operation/price range and stick w/ that brand.. I insist upon clear,bubble and foam free plastisol for certain addendum dipping operations. I have the silicone cups but they are much to flimsy to fill past half way and therefor are no longer used. I do not use Pyrex glassware- borosilcate lab measuring cups from Catamount Glass edited for content Edited December 13, 2013 by smallmouthaholic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...