Red's Baits Posted May 7, 2011 Report Share Posted May 7, 2011 I got some of the EZ Flow and Ultrasol in soft and I think they are pretty good. Here is my take on them so far after one quick pour. The + They seem to heat up a bit faster. They pour pretty nicely. They don't smoke a hole lot. They don't seem to really separate and settle. The - I have had a little bubbling with the Ultrsol but not to bad. The Ez flow just seems like really extra soft plastic and takes a long time to set. Because they heat up faster you have to be a little more careful with the heat. I could be wrong about this one but I think the baits might have a little stronger plastic smell after setting. Over all so far I like them. By the way I use a hotplate not a micro. Other Plastics I have used are M-F, Lurecraft & Ozarktackle. If you have every smelt the Hag's Tornado's they have a plastic cent to them, THe Lake Fork pllastic smell is covered up with garlic. So for any plastic I have poured as had a plastic smell of some kind if it wasn't covered up with some other sent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bass-Boys Posted May 7, 2011 Report Share Posted May 7, 2011 Can you guys tell me if this plastic is neutral bouyant or if it floats. I have talked to lureworks and they say it is floating but I know from experience that most plastic does not float it is neutral bouyant. What I mean is if you push the baits under water will they float back up. Most baits will float if you lay them on the water but if you push them under they won't float back up. it is floating. it come s back to the surface Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carolinamike Posted May 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 7, 2011 Red, I'm curious, did you have the plastic smell with the BBCP or the injectasol? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bass100 Posted May 7, 2011 Report Share Posted May 7, 2011 Thanks for the info Bass-Boys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red's Baits Posted May 8, 2011 Report Share Posted May 8, 2011 Red, I'm curious, did you have the plastic smell with the BBCP or the injectasol? Yes I did, I justadded a few drops of scent to cover it up. Most all my customer's don't care forthe heavy scent or real oily worms. One customer just finished a tournement and finished 2nd big bass with a 8.76 lbs and 4th place over all stringer 18.? for 4th. Thoses worms had no scent or oil on them at all they came straight out of my testing bags that I carry on my boat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluegrasslover Posted May 8, 2011 Report Share Posted May 8, 2011 I saw this morning that Spike-It (Lureworks) has added some new formulas to their website. I called and done some inquiries about it, they now produce Gel-A-Lure, Pourasol for hand pours, Injectasol for hand injection, and Ultrasol. From what I understand, Ultrasol is a formula that has no settling. Also they're going to be offering an optical brightener, which will help take the yellow tint out of white baits. It's been a while since the hand pours have seen new products made available to them. I think that if this goes well for Lureworks, that you'll see a lot of new and different products put out for hand production. I just ordered a gallon of the pouresol. Can't wait to give it a try! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red's Baits Posted May 11, 2011 Report Share Posted May 11, 2011 (edited) I just got through running 6 cups of the injectasol. I used 3 cup per presto pot and made my purple melon laminate. Heating the injectasol med in the presto pots I had no micro bubbles at all and it shot great. Edited May 11, 2011 by Red's Baits Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carolinamike Posted May 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2011 I found out today for those of you that make swim baits, frogs and tubes, that have eyes or maybe you're painting them, that the EZ Flow plastic is specially formulated also as an outside clear coat. It's a thinner material with less heat needed so it's also perfect for this application. Thought I'd pass this along. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red's Baits Posted May 13, 2011 Report Share Posted May 13, 2011 I found out today for those of you that make swim baits, frogs and tubes, that have eyes or maybe you're painting them, that the EZ Flow plastic is specially formulated also as an outside clear coat. It's a thinner material with less heat needed so it's also perfect for this application. Thought I'd pass this along. Bruce at Ispikeit told me the same thing yesterday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carolinamike Posted May 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2011 Bruce at Ispikeit told me the same thing yesterday. Uh-huh Red, you must have been keeping it a secret. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red's Baits Posted May 13, 2011 Report Share Posted May 13, 2011 Uh-huh Red, you must have been keeping it a secret. LOL, nothing to hide bud just been making the phone calls and asking the questions of the products they have. They have a few more products also coming out that you may like. I got some of it coming the the order I placed mid week. If it works I will post on it for sure after I get my order in for more of it. LOL These guys are really making some cool stuff coming out for us to use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluegrasslover Posted May 23, 2011 Report Share Posted May 23, 2011 Finally tried the pourasol. I got Med but it feel just like lc soft. It may be tougher but that is yet to be determined. Pours great. Nice and smooth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB GONE Posted May 23, 2011 Report Share Posted May 23, 2011 (edited) Hope the medium is not like soft as that will be to soft... Might have to get hardner then.... Darn!!!! My 5 gallons is on the way! I just don't see hardener as an option to buy seperate. Hmmm. Hope I don't have to custome blend medium and hard as an "LC soft" won't cut it for swimbaits. Jim Edited May 23, 2011 by ghostbaits Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basscandy92040 Posted May 23, 2011 Report Share Posted May 23, 2011 Hope the medium is not like soft as that will be to soft... Might have to get hardner then.... Darn!!!! My 5 gallons is on the way! I just don't see hardener as an option to buy seperate. Hmmm. Hope I don't have to custome blend medium and hard as an "LC soft" won't cut it for swimbaits. Jim All, So is the soft too soft? compared to LC 536..I currently have used LC 536 and the 502 hard...I going to order up a couple 5 gal buckets. Just wondering what the verdict was on the various types of plastics... Thanks, Cliff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bass-Boys Posted May 23, 2011 Report Share Posted May 23, 2011 they ( spike ) told me may 1st prices went up some. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red's Baits Posted May 24, 2011 Report Share Posted May 24, 2011 Yes the price is going up alittle and that is due to raw materials cost has gone up some. Bruce said it wasn't gonna change much. I am fixing to order the hard injectasol. Iwas fishing this last weekend with the new ring worm mold I got and after about 30 plus cast you could sling the back half of the worm off. That was with med plastic too. Not sure yet if this is a mold design issue or the plastic. I will tell y'all this they are coming out with a liquid salt as well. I need to do more testing on this before I give a review on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallie Posted May 24, 2011 Report Share Posted May 24, 2011 Has anyone used the Pourasol Hard? I need a bucket of "Saltwater" plastic. Will the Pourasol 4562 Hard be similar to the Lurecraft 500? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basscandy92040 Posted May 24, 2011 Report Share Posted May 24, 2011 Ok, I talked to Bruce today at LW and I ended up ordering a 5 gal of soft and hard. I will post my results of each. I have only used the LC 536 and 500, so that will be the comparison...Great price, 10 gals shipped to So Cal $263.24. Thats a lot better than my last 165.00 shipped for 5 gals.....I will have to do the math and see what the total savings is per ounce... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cintaskevin Posted May 25, 2011 Report Share Posted May 25, 2011 [Please let us know. Inquiring minds want to know! By the way, where in So Cal are you from? Murrieta here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basscandy92040 Posted May 25, 2011 Report Share Posted May 25, 2011 [Please let us know. Inquiring minds want to know! By the way, where in So Cal are you from? Murrieta here! Lakeside.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB GONE Posted May 25, 2011 Report Share Posted May 25, 2011 OK, I ordered my 5 gallons of medium Pourasol on Tuesday and it was at the shop by Wednesday!!! WOW!!! Cannot beat that! I cooked 8oz last night and will cook more tonight. I will need to add some hardener to mine as it is a little soft compared to both LC 502 and M-F medium. Cooked a cup in the microwave for 2 mins 8 secs as I do all others. Plastic is about the same in smoke generated as LC or M-F, fumes are similar to LC, less than M-F. There were thousands of micro bubbels however and that is not good for my production needs with a microwave as my primary heat source. They may have been from the shipping though so I will cook another cup or 2 tonight. I really like the 2.5 gallon jugs. There was a thin layer of "soft pack" that was easily mixed from a quick scraping. Resulting baits do have more of a "plastic" odor than that of LC or M-F. Very low oil of resulting baits after left on paper towel overnight. Also, baits set up real well right out of the molds. No stickyness at all. For the money, I doubt this plastisol can be beat. I am sure that I will want to add some hardener for my flipping and swim baits or blend the medium and hard. I also think that when I use my pot, the micro bubble issue will not occur. When I cook my cups tonight, I will try shortening the heating cycle but for production purposes, I don't want to have to toy with it. As to the hardness question, the shore can always be compared however this medium pourasol feels like it is between LC's 502 (soft as they call it) and 536 (super-soft as they call it). Hope this helps!!! Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red's Baits Posted May 25, 2011 Report Share Posted May 25, 2011 Jim, While your heating with the microwave stir it more often. It will have some bubbles but after your done adding your color and glitter and reheat it to shoot mine has been fine. Now for the Presto pot cooking I have had no bubbles with the pourasol or the injectasol. I don't think you can bet the injectasol for the price. I can bag worms up with in a hour from demolding. I normally mix up a batch in presto pot shoot it all. I'll clean the pot or use another pot. While that plastic is cooking and changing it's chemical state I will bag the worms from the other run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloomisman Posted May 26, 2011 Report Share Posted May 26, 2011 I have used calhoons and do not like it. Now I'm using MF Supersoft. and really like it. Which of these would be the best for hand pouring single sided molds that is closest to MF. I need to order more plastic but MF is high dollar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bass-Boys Posted May 26, 2011 Report Share Posted May 26, 2011 I have used calhoons and do not like it. Now I'm using MF Supersoft. and really like it. Which of these would be the best for hand pouring single sided molds that is closest to MF. I need to order more plastic but MF is high dollar. wait for Jims ( ghost ) response to this, he will know for sure. he uses MF-SS & is now testing the Lure Works Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB GONE Posted May 26, 2011 Report Share Posted May 26, 2011 Sorry to say I only tested the medium and not soft. Just from judging, I would say that the Lureworks pourasol soft is going to be the closest in softness to M-F ss. Lurecraft's super super soft is not as soft for sure as the M-F ss. Chemionics if soft as well but the baits took a little to long to set up for my liking. If we could get a complete list of the shore of each type of plastisol, we might be able to judge from that rating. Not sure if all the manufacturers will give this or have it readily available. I can tell you this: From Bruce @ Lureworks..... "Medium has a shore 00 of 27 and soft is 20." Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
