Open Eyed Hook

[blanx]

i am looking for a 4/0 5/0 hook with a 50 degree bend hook with an open eye. has anyone ran across a hook like this? i have been told they are made but i cant find them. i have also been told i can contact the maker and have them make a special run of hooks. before i pay that kind of money id like to make sure no one makes them.

[blanx]

i am looking for a 4/0 5/0 hook with a 50 degree bend hook with an open eye. has anyone ran across a hook like this? i have been told they are made but i cant find them. i have also been told i can contact the maker and have them make a special run of hooks. before i pay that kind of money id like to make sure no one makes them.

i meant to say 60 sorry

Edited March 24, 2011 by blanx

[bassrecord]

i meant to say 60 sorry

Perhaps you could share with us, or PM me, what is the purpose of an open eyed hook today on freshwater lures?

As I recall the history of hook development, first hooks had no eyes and were called blind hooks. Anglers tied them to their line using a hangman's knot or something similar. As technology improved, open eyed or partially ringed eyes were developed but to keep the hook from falling off, the hangman's type knot was still used. Then over 100 years ago full circle ringed eyes were developed allowing today's variety of knots and terminal tackle. So why use open eyed hooks today? just wondering.

Thanks.

John

[psilvers]

Open eye hooks are sold - I am not sure about the bend you are seking. In any case, they are generally used so that a hook can be attached to solid rings.

Pete

[psilvers]

Check this out:

http://www.terminaltackleco.com/prod_detail_list/16

Mustad #31022D Limerick Hook - Duratin

Size 11/0 IN STOCK!!

Duratin, Open Ring

Kirbed, Superior Point

Extra Long Shank Bent Aside

Is this what you were talking about?

Pete

[blanx]

Check this out:

http://www.terminalt..._detail_list/16

Mustad #31022D Limerick Hook - Duratin

Size 11/0 IN STOCK!!

Duratin, Open Ring

Kirbed, Superior Point

Extra Long Shank Bent Aside

Is this what you were talking about?

Pete

close but its not the correct bend the bend would be like this but with the open ring

its the 3rd hook down

http://www.terminaltackleco.com/prod_detail_list/67

[sdsaw]

Perhaps you could share with us, or PM me, what is the purpose of an open eyed hook today on freshwater lures?

As I recall the history of hook development, first hooks had no eyes and were called blind hooks. Anglers tied them to their line using a hangman's knot or something similar. As technology improved, open eyed or partially ringed eyes were developed but to keep the hook from falling off, the hangman's type knot was still used. Then over 100 years ago full circle ringed eyes were developed allowing today's variety of knots and terminal tackle. So why use open eyed hooks today? just wondering.

Thanks.

John

Here's one application for an open eye jig hook:

http://www.barlowstackle.com/-Shakee-Jig-Heads--P1525C190.aspx

[Vodkaman]

I have read on other sites of lure builders cutting the eye, twisting open to add a swivel, then twisting closed. With large size hooks, the loss of strength would not be significant. PM of link sent.

Dave

Edited March 27, 2011 by Vodkaman

[sdsaw]

Vodkaman might be one to something

I done believe that you will be cutting anything though

You probably can open the eye of a Seaguard(Eagle Claw) jig hook or a Duratin(Mustad)

These hooks are somewhat pliable compared to the black nickel hooks

I've been opening the eye of Mustad 3407DT in 6/0 & 7/0 to fit a barrel swivel

I twist the eye sideways enough to fit the swivel then twist back. It still seems to be strong enough

[Vodkaman]

Vodkaman might be one to something

I done believe that you will be cutting anything though.

LOL, you are probably right, I have never seen hooks that large, apart from the butchers shop with half a pig hanging from it. I am more comfortable with size 22 spade ends with a single maggot.

Dave

[bassrecord]

Here's one application for an open eye jig hook:

http://www.barlowsta...-P1525C190.aspx

Thanks for sharing now I see. An open eye hook is where you insert something like a ring, blade, etc. and squeeze it shut as an option to buying a ringed eye hook and prizing it open, inserting something and then squeezing it closed. Yep I can see the advantage of just squeezing the metal once using an open eye hook vs, squeezing it twice with a ringed eye hook.

Thanks again.

John

[blanx]

i got a response from mustad:

" Yes we have made a 32786BLN with an open eye for the Chatter Bait Co. in years past. Please note they have a very good patent and are aggressively pursuing any one infringing upon that patent. I would need 2 things from you to manufacture a special #1 the size or dimension of the opening and #2 I need to know if you can handle a minimum of 50,000 pieces which is a minimum run."

thats a ton. is anyone else intersted maybe we can get a group together and make this work.

[Tony Maxwell]

Other options to consider. Drive a small centerpunch into the eye of a hook and it will open up some. Une a piece of wood for a platform. Or you can pour the head over a regulat spinnerbait hook with a short piece of .040 SS Wire attached and form an eye after. I have done both.

Tony

[DUCBOS]

If you are inserting something into the eye, just heat it with a candle and open it, insert the swivel, etc, and close it back.

I do this with making football head draggin' jigs, like the Biffle jig.

Just dip it in water to cool it quickly after closing and it will harden.