psilvers Posted March 28, 2011 Report Share Posted March 28, 2011 I just got some CSI vinyl paint and I have tried to use it in my Iwata Eclipse with some limited success. I have the brush set up with the larger aperature and the correct needle - I think it is a .5 mm aperature. I can only get the paint to spray when it is significantly thinned with thinner. I assume this is normal, I realized when I opened the jar of paint that I would need to thin it. For you guys that use this combo - how much do you usually thin the paint before it will spray properly? I have found that I need to thin it to at least 50%. Is this what others have found, or am I doing something wrong? Thanks, Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musky Glenn Posted March 28, 2011 Report Share Posted March 28, 2011 They usually say about the same as milk. Musky Glenn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smalljaw Posted March 28, 2011 Report Share Posted March 28, 2011 I used that set up before powder paint came along and you need a 50% mix minimum, go with createx airbrush paint, no thinning needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psilvers Posted March 28, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2011 Thanks! I was surprised at how much I had to thin the paint before it would spray. I didn't do extensive testing on it, but at least I now know that I am going in the right direction. Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psilvers Posted March 28, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2011 Smalljaw, I did try some Createx and that seemed to spray well. This is just for some detail work over a powder paint base. Have you found that the Createx holds up well? I will coat with either Devcon 2T or CSI Seal Coat. Thanks, Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smalljaw Posted March 29, 2011 Report Share Posted March 29, 2011 Pete, I never used the createx, I have a friend that uses it and has no problem but he is using a top coat and he is doing crankbaits, not lead so that may be different. When I strted the only thing I could get was vinyl and it was good for dipping or brushing but once I got an airbrush I found that you really had to thin it out so it would spray consistantly but with the discovery of powder I abandoned the vinyl for good, to messy and the fumes aren't great either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psilvers Posted March 29, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2011 I sprayed a bit of Createx and let it dry overnight. However, when I coated it with CSI Seal Coat it ran a bit. I think that I will go with a powder base and add some detail with vinyl and then coat it with Seal Coat. That seems to provide a good finish. Once I thinned out the vinyl enough, it sprayed OK on the Eclipse. I do have a Paasche with a larger aperature and I might try that and see how that sprays. On another note, it was cold this weekend in Kansas. I had my shop heater on and I realized that I needed to be VERY careful with the heater around vinyl paint. Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodkaman Posted March 29, 2011 Report Share Posted March 29, 2011 I sprayed a bit of Createx and let it dry overnight. However, when I coated it with CSI Seal Coat it ran a bit. I think that I will go with a powder base and add some detail with vinyl and then coat it with Seal Coat. That seems to provide a good finish. Once I thinned out the vinyl enough, it sprayed OK on the Eclipse. I do have a Paasche with a larger aperature and I might try that and see how that sprays. On another note, it was cold this weekend in Kansas. I had my shop heater on and I realized that I needed to be VERY careful with the heater around vinyl paint. Pete Pette, it is not enough just to let createx dry, it has to be heat set with a hair drier. Lots has been written about this, so you should have no trouble finding information. Search CROSS LINK or HEAT SET. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psilvers Posted March 29, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2011 Pette, it is not enough just to let createx dry, it has to be heat set with a hair drier. Lots has been written about this, so you should have no trouble finding information. Search CROSS LINK or HEAT SET. Dave Thanks. I will search that. Createx does have the advantage in that it doesn't smell like vinyl. Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
