Smallie Posted April 12, 2011 Report Share Posted April 12, 2011 I recently set up a Presto Pot and am thinking about how to mix my existing recipes in larger volume. Is it linear and you just do the math or are there rules of thumb like take one drop out for every multiple you are going up. In other words, if a 4 ounce batch uses 10 drops, do I put 80 drops in a 32 ounce batch or do I make adjustments. I don't want to make quarts of colors I don't like. I thought that was covered on this site at one time but I have been searching for an hour and have not found it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powerworm Posted April 12, 2011 Report Share Posted April 12, 2011 i can guarantee you that all of your recipes will NOT be the same equally!! it will probably be more drops per than what you are saying in your post!! and if you are doing anything over a quart use a different type of measuring like a childs dosage syringe and go slow til you match your other recipes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carolinamike Posted April 13, 2011 Report Share Posted April 13, 2011 smallie, I remeber being at the point that you're at now, and truthfully it's a whole lot easier to weigh your coloring for large batches rather than counting drops and plus the consistency of your baits is just so much better. If nothing else get you a set of gram scales, a small shot glass or beaker, count your drops one time into the shot glass or beaker, and then weigh it. If it's a solid color such as green pumpkin or watermelon you'll usually find that the same amount will do with all batches. For instance, when I was doing hand pours, I would use about 5 grams of coloring per 20 oz of plastic. If you buy your coloring from more than one source, then you will need to weigh these separate. Some places have different color mixing ratios than others. But It's so much easier to pour 5 grams of coloring rather than count 50 drops. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAE73 Posted April 13, 2011 Report Share Posted April 13, 2011 For you all using the syringes are you throwing them away after each use or have you found a way to clean them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallie Posted April 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 smallie, I remeber being at the point that you're at now, and truthfully it's a whole lot easier to weigh your coloring for large batches rather than counting drops and plus the consistency of your baits is just so much better. If nothing else get you a set of gram scales, a small shot glass or beaker, count your drops one time into the shot glass or beaker, and then weigh it. If it's a solid color such as green pumpkin or watermelon you'll usually find that the same amount will do with all batches. For instance, when I was doing hand pours, I would use about 5 grams of coloring per 20 oz of plastic. If you buy your coloring from more than one source, then you will need to weigh these separate. Some places have different color mixing ratios than others. But It's so much easier to pour 5 grams of coloring rather than count 50 drops. I didn't think of weighing it but that makes sense. I have a digital scale but it reads in ounces. I'll have to see if I can work out a conversion. Thanks for the idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powerworm Posted April 14, 2011 Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 i have 1 for every color i use tae!! they are free at walgreens and my brother in law works there too boot!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallie Posted April 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 i have 1 for every color i use tae!! they are free at walgreens and my brother in law works there too boot!! Are you saying by having one for each color, you never have to clean them? Doesn't the colorant build up over time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rixon529 Posted April 14, 2011 Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 I didn't think of weighing it but that makes sense. I have a digital scale but it reads in ounces. I'll have to see if I can work out a conversion. Thanks for the idea. One ounce equals 28.3 grams. If you only wanted to measure 5 grams for example, it would be 0.177 ounces - if your scale will accurately read that fine of an ounce measurement... I've recently been eyeing this one from Harbor Freight. The 1,000 gram rated capacity equals a little over 2 pounds, and its small enough to not get in the way - lost, maybe, but not in the way... In the customer reviews section for this scale, several admitted that it gets finicky at one-tenth of a gram, but I don't think plastic pourers are going to need to get that finite - and you have to bear in mind that it's only $12. I have a Harbor Freight store a couple miles from where I often go for business meetings. I'm just waiting for the next business meeting to come up and I can kill two birds with one stone. Rick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallie Posted April 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 One ounce equals 28.3 grams. If you only wanted to measure 5 grams for example, it would be 0.177 ounces - if your scale will accurately read that fine of an ounce measurement... I've recently been eyeing this one from Harbor Freight. The 1,000 gram rated capacity equals a little over 2 pounds, and its small enough to not get in the way - lost, maybe, but not in the way... In the customer reviews section for this scale, several admitted that it gets finicky at one-tenth of a gram, but I don't think plastic pourers are going to need to get that finite - and you have to bear in mind that it's only $12. I have a Harbor Freight store a couple miles from where I often go for business meetings. I'm just waiting for the next business meeting to come up and I can kill two birds with one stone. Rick That will work for me - the scale goes to 3 decimal places. It also has a tare button so I can put a container on it and it will read zero. Then I just add colorant till it reads .177 oz. Thanks for getting me started. 20 ounces coming up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodkaman Posted April 14, 2011 Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 (edited) One ounce equals 28.3 grams. If you only wanted to measure 5 grams for example, it would be 0.177 ounces - if your scale will accurately read that fine of an ounce measurement... I've recently been eyeing this one from Harbor Freight. The 1,000 gram rated capacity equals a little over 2 pounds, and its small enough to not get in the way - lost, maybe, but not in the way... In the customer reviews section for this scale, several admitted that it gets finicky at one-tenth of a gram, but I don't think plastic pourers are going to need to get that finite - and you have to bear in mind that it's only $12. I have a Harbor Freight store a couple miles from where I often go for business meetings. I'm just waiting for the next business meeting to come up and I can kill two birds with one stone. Rick For mixing colorants etc, you will definately need the tenth of a gram, how else will you know when you are at exactly 1 gram or nearly but not quite 2 grams. Essential in my opinion. You can also use the gram scale for checking your hook count, rather than counting 1000 hooks. Weigh 10 hooks, write down the number, weigh your 1000 hooks and divide by the 10 hook weight. If the answer is less than 100, then you have been dealt short. Repeat a couple more times, for an average. You can count coins or even money bills this way too. I make cranks and the difference between a suspending bait and a slow sinker is 1/200th of the body weight, so I use 1/10th of a gram all the time. Dave Edited April 14, 2011 by Vodkaman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pitbull Baits Posted April 14, 2011 Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 Are you guys mixing colors or rocket fuel? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodkaman Posted April 14, 2011 Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 Are you guys mixing colors or rocket fuel? Let me see, count 80 drops or measure 3.6 grams, I know which method I would prefer. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayburnGuy Posted April 14, 2011 Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 They've got some good deals on scales that read in grams or ounces on Ebay. The one I bought reads in 1/10's of a gram and 1/100 (or was that 1/1000) of an ounce. It was less than $20 including shipping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pitbull Baits Posted April 14, 2011 Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 (edited) Let me see, count 80 drops or measure 3.6 grams, I know which method I would prefer. Dave I just scored a bend new case syringes at a yard sale for $5 to use to messure my colors. Edited April 14, 2011 by Pitbull Baits Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodkaman Posted April 14, 2011 Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 (edited) I just scored a bend new case syringes at a yard sale for $5 to use to messure my colors. Good buy. That'll work too Dave Edited April 14, 2011 by Vodkaman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassgeek Posted April 14, 2011 Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 Are you guys mixing colors or rocket fuel? This is way more important the rocket surgery or brain science. This is fishing after all. :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rixon529 Posted April 15, 2011 Report Share Posted April 15, 2011 This is way more important the rocket surgery or brain science. This is fishing after all. :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
