siebler_custom_baits Posted March 22, 2004 Report Share Posted March 22, 2004 i am very cheap and want a mold for myself to make diamond lures (irons as we call them). what can i make a mold of? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheesehead Posted March 22, 2004 Report Share Posted March 22, 2004 CJ, get some mild aluminum bar stock. you can "mill" a V shaped slot in each half with a router and sharp carbide tipped bit. To taper them or make them a little fatter in the middle set up a plywood jig to hold the bar stock at a slight angle. If you decide to use this route be sure to wear a full face mask as well as a tight fitting long sleeve shirt. Aluminum shavings are a lot sharper than sawdust and can cut you up fairly quick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delw Posted March 22, 2004 Report Share Posted March 22, 2004 DONT cut alum with a router, there are to many rpms and the spindles dont work very well for that type of cutting. The material will load up faster and will not only ruin your work or break the piece but hurt you very bad. get a dremel tool or an air type (14 bucks?) and use TOOL STEEL NOT Carbide. Carbide will give you lots of chatter (on these types of tools)and you might end up slipping off the bar and hurting yourself. MAke sure you coat the cutter with light oil. also a 8 flute or 12 flute SOmething more than 6 flutes will cut easier and better by hand . DONT USE A 4 FLUTE OR 2 FLuTE ENDMILL when cutting my hand with a dremel or air dremel. Keep oil on it constantlyy and go slow and you will be just fine. To use carbide you MUST have a ridgid spindle out you can get seriously hurt. CArbide isnt the Choise for most machinist cutting allum either tool steel cuts 10 time smoother and faster(because you can keep a load on it) they do have special coated carbide cutters with good shearing action but they are pricey and not worth the expence. Delw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siebler_custom_baits Posted March 22, 2004 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2004 i really didnt want to have to to allum. because i am only making a few baits every once in a while for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celticav Posted March 23, 2004 Report Share Posted March 23, 2004 You could try carving one outta wood until you get it like you like it, you would be surprised at how many pours you get from a wood mold. I love to experiment so I am constantly making little "proto-molds"...heck my wife says I am better at "engineering" a homemade mold than I am at making baits!! I have taken to using bondo lately because I seem to be able to shape and fit it better than other stuff but, I will still use Durhams water putty from Home Depot or Lowe's too. Don't get discouraged with your first attempt...actually remember to save that "creation" that comes outta that first pour so you can laugh at it later...but they will get better with every one you make. Have fun and let me know if I can help at all, JIM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siebler_custom_baits Posted March 23, 2004 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2004 so i was thinking of carving a wood master then using the bondo or water putty. would this work? also how do i make the mold, the same as a 1 peice plaster? does it has to be 2 peice? thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celticav Posted March 23, 2004 Report Share Posted March 23, 2004 Yeah, a wood master will work, but a bondo or putty one should last you a good little while. Here is a good tutorial for bondo...its for sinkers but should get you started http://www.matagordabay.com/sinker.htm and here is an article on the putty from a TU member http://www.wmi.org/sql_messages_html/onfly_file/doc.asp?num=28316&ini=d:%5Casp_ini%5Cfishing_tactics_3way.ini&no_nav= Hope it helps, JIM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siebler_custom_baits Posted March 23, 2004 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2004 what about like plaster? i am not making a lot of baits so i dont need a mold that is gonna last. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LedHed Posted April 2, 2004 Report Share Posted April 2, 2004 Hola CJ, You might be interested in Do-It's new shad mold. I got the 6oz/4oz model. Looks pretty good for Cali water. Haven't tried yet - season is still early. Had to have some machine work on it - they list a CC 600 wire form so I got a 100 to find out that they don't fit in either cavity. So instead of ordering the 400 (next size down) I had a friend machine the mold so the 600 would fit. If it rains, like it is right now, this weekend - I'll be pouring.... Was down at BOLA last month and the locals were launching some odd looking stuff that was really working out on the homegaurd YTs. Got my first goldspotted bass on a blue and white. Caught a real nice 8lber but it was on bait Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siebler_custom_baits Posted May 8, 2004 Author Report Share Posted May 8, 2004 I got an oringinal made. kinda like a football head but it isnt exactly. it will be in the next swap package if i get a mold made. I like the waterputty idea but i am gonna try plaster first. Do i have to seal plaster? thanks. and ledhead. nice fish. saw another guy in cali on a yakfishing board with the screen name same as yours. i got excited and thought it was you but he said he wasnt a memeber of this site and thought he had an origonal name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Splash Posted May 9, 2004 Report Share Posted May 9, 2004 I pour lead into unsealed plaster molds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattlures Posted May 9, 2004 Report Share Posted May 9, 2004 CJ make a two piece plaster mold and coat your master with vasalene. make sure your plaster is completely dry, this may take a couple days.. instead of coating your mold(witch isnt needed) sprinkle some talk powder or baby powder on the mold then tap it out. this will help the lead pour easily. Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siebler_custom_baits Posted May 9, 2004 Author Report Share Posted May 9, 2004 thanks matt. still havnt gotten a bluegill. guess i will have to soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LedHed Posted May 12, 2004 Report Share Posted May 12, 2004 CJ I'm back and Costa Rica rocks! Got some toady Sierras to 6 kg.s and Roosters to 11 kg.s. Brutegill, I mean the BIG bluegill are hitting at Lake Perris. Have a couple of extra tubes of high temp RTV if your'e interested. Max working temp is 500 F / 260 C. Got a hold of some stuff that they call "wiping solder" from a lineman friend. PM'd with Richoc and determined it is probably a 60/40 lead/tin. Melted it down to ingots and it looks like its perfect for the "iron". Not too soft so you won't be knocking off the paint. Oh noo, not another LedHed........................ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siebler_custom_baits Posted May 12, 2004 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2004 awsome. yep, another ledhead but hes a Yaker.i wouldnt mind fishing with you some time this summer. i have a tourny in SD bay on the 5th of june from my kayak. hoping to win it and buy like 500.00 worth of lead molds and stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LedHed Posted May 12, 2004 Report Share Posted May 12, 2004 Cj, Good luck on your tourny, hope you slay with your new lures..... Hookn' up sounds good - maybe some bluegill at Perris. Will be at the Coronados on the 22nd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siebler_custom_baits Posted May 12, 2004 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2004 prvate boat? i ight be there too. the 304 is getting yf tuna so the boats are running offshore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LedHed Posted May 15, 2004 Report Share Posted May 15, 2004 Going on a limited - company trip. It's tuna time... What's your #1 color for iron? Have you tried powder painting on iron? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siebler_custom_baits Posted May 15, 2004 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2004 powder paint wasnt great for irons. the color usually isnt as important as the action. but for color i would go with the snikers or blue/ white. there are others that are cool hologram tape that are awsome to. i would buy salas in 4oz - 7 or 8. most guys throw 6 or 7s. throw on 30 lb test or 25 lb test. tuna are close right now witn a couple yellow fin as close as 20.7 miles from sd bay. yellowtail are everywhere so expect to pick some of them up too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LedHed Posted June 8, 2004 Report Share Posted June 8, 2004 CJ How did you do at SD bay? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siebler_custom_baits Posted June 8, 2004 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2004 man 3 fish. 1 about 3 inches short. so i had 2 fish to weigh in. ended up top 10. got out on my yak and started drifting got one and my partner asked for a grub like i had on. well i reach back for the grubs and end up droping in all the heads i poured pluse some other stuff i had. still had all my swap baits though . guess it was a good thing i poured some fro my partner too. all fish came on my jigs including 2 by my partner that were the same lime-green color as his yak. lol it was definatly fun till it got really chopy for the paddle in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
