RiverMan Posted April 5, 2004 Report Share Posted April 5, 2004 Marc, You know I have experimented some with where I place the lead on my gliders and all seem to work ok. Most often I put lead in near the throat of the bait and then somewhere near the tail before the bait gets too thin. It seems that so long as the bait sinks horizontally the bait will also work well. jed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musky1 Posted April 5, 2004 Author Report Share Posted April 5, 2004 I have an x-ray photo of the Hughes bait. Can someone post the picture for me? I don't have the program to downsize the pixels. Thanks. Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiverMan Posted April 5, 2004 Report Share Posted April 5, 2004 I will resize and post it Jim if you would like me to. My email is: tossmealine@yahoo.com What is it about Hughes River Baits that makes them so popular? jed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siscoe Kid Posted April 5, 2004 Report Share Posted April 5, 2004 Popular. You can't be serious. The guy has ripped off so many people he can't show his face at most musky sportshows. Talk to any of the top musky shops and you'll get the same answer. Theres many other quality muskie baits being made that equal and exceed the quality of his baits at half the price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musky1 Posted April 5, 2004 Author Report Share Posted April 5, 2004 Siscoe kid I heard the same thing about Hughes. I never even tried a Hughes bait. They were selling for $50 to $70 at the Pittsburgh musky show. I couldn't believe it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiverMan Posted April 5, 2004 Report Share Posted April 5, 2004 This x-ray photo of a Hughes River Bait is courtesy of Musky1 (Jim) and I am posting it for him. Thanks Jim for providing this for us, really cool!! Are those all weights? Also, why did they put screw eyes on the ends but not on the middle two hook hangers? Strange. Siscoe, sounds like you are not the biggest fan of Hughes but I mentioned the baits being "popular" from how they go on Ebay. Hughes River generally go for....40, 50, bucks, it's amazing. I have never seen one myself so I can't say....in fact have never seen a musky either altho my ex-wife did resemble one, lol. RM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
out2llunge Posted April 5, 2004 Report Share Posted April 5, 2004 Any shots of the original for comparison ie. same bait, but in a photo? Or do we know the model of that HR? I would imagine those are all pieces of lead and if so, that is one heck of a lot of lead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe32 Posted April 5, 2004 Report Share Posted April 5, 2004 That would be my reaction,That is one hell of a lot of lead. Any body have any idea what the sink rate is ofthe original baits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiverMan Posted April 5, 2004 Report Share Posted April 5, 2004 That's the first thing I thought when I saw the pic, "that thing is gonna sink like a rock". Each piece of lead does not look very large but the bait must still be very heavy. Yes it would be interesting to see a pic of the bait too and also how it sinks in the water...kerplunk! Jed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muskiemarc Posted April 5, 2004 Report Share Posted April 5, 2004 With that much lead I don't think that these baits would be made of maple as I was told and mentioned earlier. I would be more inclined to think that they would be made of cedar. As for the popularity of the Hughes River I think that it as alot to do with their finish. They have awsome finishes and the top coat is just like glass. They probably catch more fisherman then muskies because they are so pretty. Supply and demand drove the prices up. That being said I would never spend that kind of money for a bait. There are plenty of gliders out there that go for half the price and would be just as effective. Better yet build your own! Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiverMan Posted April 6, 2004 Report Share Posted April 6, 2004 I agree with you Marc.....I would also guess that they are made of cedar. Speaking from experience I can tell you it takes a bunch of lead to make a cedar lure glide. I have made many of cedar and ended up creating a slot and pouring lead into it...otherwise the bottom of the bait might have ended up looking like the x-ray pic. The HR Baits do have an amazing finish on them, I wonder what they use. I will say, however, that Devcon is very good as well and I have been very happy with it. The other day I took a lure and sank it underwater for a full 24 hours and it looks just the same as when it went under.........................................perfect. Jed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musky1 Posted April 7, 2004 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2004 I just made a few of the Hughes baits, still need to paint etc. I placed the original in a bucket of water. The bait seems to have a neutral to slow sink. The ones I made were through wire construction. Instead of using a 3/8" drill bit I used a 1/2" forstener bit. This eliminates drilling a bunch of holes. Riverman, Can I send you a picture of the original bait to post? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiverMan Posted April 7, 2004 Report Share Posted April 7, 2004 I'd be glad to post them for you, send away. tossmealine@yahoo.com That's interesting that the HR original has a neutral buoyancy to it. If a guy had a scale and knew the weight of all the components on the lure including the epoxy you could easily come up with baits that do the same thing everytime. Jed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiverMan Posted April 8, 2004 Report Share Posted April 8, 2004 Here is the Hughes River Bait that was x-rayed, photo provided by Jim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiverMan Posted April 15, 2004 Report Share Posted April 15, 2004 Can someone tell me how thick the Hughes is...hard to tell from the picture. Thx. Jed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coley Posted April 15, 2004 Report Share Posted April 15, 2004 Musky1 and RiverMan, I hope you don't mind, I enhanced the X-ray picture. So, it would be a lot easier to see. Coley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muskie1958 Posted April 15, 2004 Report Share Posted April 15, 2004 Why can I not see the picture? Where do I have to go to see it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadlystreamer Posted April 15, 2004 Report Share Posted April 15, 2004 Hello muskie1958, Make sure your signed into the site with your user name and password, then click the download and the picture will pop up on your screen. You must be loged in. Good luck.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muskie1958 Posted April 15, 2004 Report Share Posted April 15, 2004 Thanks, I logged on an it was right there. I wasn't thinking, as usual. :oops: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musky1 Posted April 16, 2004 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2004 Riverman. The thickness of the original Hughes is 1 3/16". The x-ray looks good Coley. Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiverMan Posted April 16, 2004 Report Share Posted April 16, 2004 Jim, I am talking about the thickness from side to side, not from back to belly. I should have clarified this.....are you still telling me that this measurement is more than an inch? Jed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
