ING Posted September 27, 2011 Report Share Posted September 27, 2011 Is using a powder paint guns like: eliminating using a fluidized beds? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basseducer Posted September 28, 2011 Report Share Posted September 28, 2011 ing, I have completely quit using by fluid bed and use only the spray guns. I have four guns set up on a splitter and can do four colors. It eliminates all the problems associated with fluid beds and it gives you a thinner more even coat. It also gives you a better distribution of flake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smalljaw Posted September 28, 2011 Report Share Posted September 28, 2011 I use both a spray gun and the fluid bed and they do different things so one will not faze out the other. I like using the sray gun or air brush for muti colored jigs and spinnerbaits but it isn't a substitue for the fluid bed, that is the only way I do single colors and I often use it for base colors on a jig with 2 colors. The cons to the air brush method are waste and overspray, you can reclaim a lot of it like I do but overspray will always be present, and the other thing that isn't good is you have to go through and make sure all your powder is consistant and not in clumps as this will jam your air brush pretty good. The pros consist of better flake distributions which was already mentioned, easy blending of colors, shading effects are easier to accomplish. Both have a purpose and even though I've been using the air brush a long time with powder, I'd be lost without my fluid bed, and I believe the fluid bed puts a thinner more consistant coat of paint on than any method, that alone makes it indispensible. Try them both and you'll see they are not the same and do different things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ING Posted September 29, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 29, 2011 I have no any experience in the airbrushing or using of spray guns. What is the main difference between the spray gun and air brush or they are the same animals? And what kind of them are suiting better for jigs and lures/blades painting? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smalljaw Posted September 29, 2011 Report Share Posted September 29, 2011 I have no any experience in the airbrushing or using of spray guns. What is the main difference between the spray gun and air brush or they are the same animals? And what kind of them are suiting better for jigs and lures/blades painting? Thanks Spray gun or air brush, same thing unless you're talking about painting large items like cars or houses...lol. The spray gun we use is for powder paint and it is a hobby sand blaster designed to spray a corse medium through, now when you hear the term air brush most of the time is is a regular or air brush specific paint as a normal air brush couldn't spray plain powder paint. So if you want to spray your lures you need to decide what type of paint to use, once you decide then you'll know if you should get an air brush or a powder paint spray gun. If you want to use powder you need to remember that you aren't going to get fine detail but you can get some nice color blending, go to the gallery and look at some of my spinnerbaits, they are done using a powder paint spray gun, this will give you an idea of what you can expect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ING Posted September 29, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 29, 2011 (edited) Thank you! I'll use a powder paint. As I understand, it's requiring a powder paint gun and compressor. How powerful it has to be? Could you recommend some kind of compressor? I am limited in the space and noise level. Is it possible to use compressed air cans? Are an air cans allowed attching to powder paint gun? Thanks Edited September 29, 2011 by ING Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smalljaw Posted September 29, 2011 Report Share Posted September 29, 2011 Thank you! I'll use a powder paint. As I understand, it's requiring a powder paint gun and compressor. How powerful it has to be? Could you recommend some kind of compressor? I am limited in the space and noise level. Is it possible to use compressed air cans? Are an air cans allowed attching to powder paint gun? Thanks You can use the cans as long as you have the adapter to hook it up but you'll go through them quick. I have a small Force oilless compressor, I think it was like 75 dollars, you don't need a big compressor at all but one of those aquarium pumps like what is used for a fluid bed will not work so don't bother trying. As far as noise the small compressor I have only makes a little bit for 2 minutes until the tank is full and then I have enough air to do 3 or 4 spinnerbaits until the compressor turns back on, I can do a lot of jigs before the tank runs out also. If you don't have enough for a small compressor I'd say start saving for one and in the mean time you can get a couple cans of air, most hobby stores carry it, good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLT Posted September 30, 2011 Report Share Posted September 30, 2011 The overspray is the main reason I don't see getting one, but also the cost, clumping are factors also. Learn to use your brush to tap on the other colors and you can get great results with that method. I love my fluid bed, and am putting together another one just for the clear coat. Maybe something in the future will change my mind, but for now, cup for base coat and tapping the brush are good for me. I make and sell jigs also to shops, and they are plenty happy with the results I get. (Not up to Cadman standards yet though lol) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ING Posted September 30, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2011 Thanks everybody! I've got a lot of useful information for thinking and making decision. Here is a great friendly website! Thanks again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy1976 Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 Awesome info. Does anyone know what gun he's using to spray the powder paint? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smalljaw Posted October 8, 2011 Report Share Posted October 8, 2011 Awesome info. Does anyone know what gun he's using to spray the powder paint? Andy, I don't know what he is using but for lures most use the Badger model 260 hobby sandblaster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy1976 Posted October 8, 2011 Report Share Posted October 8, 2011 Thanks I'll look into that gun. I think he's using the pro tek gun from their website. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ING Posted October 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2011 Andy, I don't know what he is using but for lures most use the Badger model 260 hobby sandblaster. Do you think that Tj powder paint spray gun http://www.tjstackle.com/psg.htm is the same like badger model 260 hobby sandblaster at http://www.amazon.com/Badger-Air-Brush-Co-260-3-Abrasive/dp/B000IG2VEO ? Are they having same jet diameter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smalljaw Posted October 12, 2011 Report Share Posted October 12, 2011 Do you think that Tj powder paint spray gun http://www.tjstackle.com/psg.htm is the same like badger model 260 hobby sandblaster at http://www.amazon.co...e/dp/B000IG2VEO ? Are they having same jet diameter? I believe the ones Tjs sells as well as other retailers is the exact same Badger hobby sandblaster, now I could be wrong but I'm betting that if it isn't the exact make and model it will still work the same as the size of the nozzel has to be wide enough to let course media flow through it. Buy whatever you feel better with but most likely they are the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ING Posted October 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2011 Thank you. I've bought Basic Spray Kit with Propel Compressed Air by Badger for $29.70 from http://www.megahobby.com/basicspraykitwithpropelcompressedairbybadger.aspx It is consisting Propel regulator valve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smalljaw Posted October 13, 2011 Report Share Posted October 13, 2011 Thank you. I've bought Basic Spray Kit with Propel Compressed Air by Badger for $29.70 from http://www.megahobby.com/basicspraykitwithpropelcompressedairbybadger.aspx It is consisting Propel regulator valve Thats ok, I see you are going to use regular paint, at leat I hope you are because what you got will not spray powder, good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ING Posted October 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2011 (edited) Attention manager! Something has happen with that page: my initial message "Powder Paint Guns Vs. Fluidized Beds" just disappear and my name has jumped down on the not mine video: "Is using a powder paint guns like:” Now I'm understand why Andy asked me about that video. Edited October 13, 2011 by ING Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ING Posted October 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2011 I believe the ones Tjs sells as well as other retailers is the exact same Badger hobby sandblaster, now I could be wrong but I'm betting that if it isn't the exact make and model it will still work the same as the size of the nozzel has to be wide enough to let course media flow through it. Buy whatever you feel better with but most likely they are the same. Thats ok, I see you are going to use regular paint, at leat I hope you are because what you got will not spray powder, good luck. Really I am going to use powder paint according previous discussion. Why you are mention now the regular paint? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smalljaw Posted October 14, 2011 Report Share Posted October 14, 2011 Really I am going to use powder paint according previous discussion. Why you are mention now the regular paint? ING, the link you posted shows a badger airbrush, if that is what you bought to spray powder it won't work, it is for normal airbrush paint, you need the badger model 260 or whatever TJ is selling and then you can get the cans of propel with regulator seperately, I know it will cost more but I haven't seen the sandblaster in a kit with the propel cans. I only thought you were using regular paint because as I said before, what you bought or are going to buy, won't spray powder, the nozzel is to fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ING Posted October 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2011 Thank you smalljaw, It's sad that kit doesn't work with powder paint but I have a lot of acrilic paint. So, now I could use it. I was misleading by similarity of kits pictures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basscat28 Posted February 12, 2018 Report Share Posted February 12, 2018 I know this is a bit of an old thread but I'm having issues with my gun I got from TJ's. I was curious if any of you might have had similar issues and resolved them. I thought having this gun would make coating wire baits and blades much easier. I've been spraying from 3-10psi and can't seem to keep the feed tube from clogging constantly and get get a steady stream or flow of powder to finish even one bait. Any ideas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted February 12, 2018 Report Share Posted February 12, 2018 33 minutes ago, basscat28 said: I know this is a bit of an old thread but I'm having issues with my gun I got from TJ's. I was curious if any of you might have had similar issues and resolved them. I thought having this gun would make coating wire baits and blades much easier. I've been spraying from 3-10psi and can't seem to keep the feed tube from clogging constantly and get get a steady stream or flow of powder to finish even one bait. Any ideas? Maybe turn up the pressure little by little until it flows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apdriver Posted February 12, 2018 Report Share Posted February 12, 2018 You may have moisture contamination in your powder too causing it to clump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LimpNoodle Posted February 12, 2018 Report Share Posted February 12, 2018 Do you have a moisture filter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basscat28 Posted February 12, 2018 Report Share Posted February 12, 2018 I have tried turning up the pressure to the point it’s at 30psi (at that point when it comes out it’ll be a plume of smoke lol). I have a moisture trap on my compressor (I airbrush automotive and c-tex paints) and I know I don’t have moisture in my powder paint. I’ve had that happen before and it becomes heavier than flour consistency and usually lumpy. I was suggested keeping the filler jar half full to less than half full. I might have to try using a new feed tube. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
