tigerfire Posted October 11, 2011 Report Share Posted October 11, 2011 I have been attaching the Duo-Lock snaps from Lure Parts Online to my chatterbait blades. http://lurepartsonline.com/cart.php?m=product_detail&p=826 Then I tie my line to the snap. The problem I'm having is when I catch a big fish, it really bends the snap and opens it also. I have not found any double strength snaps otherwise I would use those. So, I was wondering, has anyone been able to put some kind of split ring on the blade for the a line tie? The split ring would provide a lot more strength. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBlaze Posted October 11, 2011 Report Share Posted October 11, 2011 I may have the solution to this. It was brought to my attention by a friend that this same thing was happening to my clatter blades (my version of chatterbait) This friend suggested that I turn the duo-lock snap upside down and the pressure would not be put on the locking part of the snap. You can check this out by tying one on and then pulling on the line while holding on to the bait. You will see that the pressure is put on the hooking side of the snap and could possibly force it open when a big fish is surging against it. Remove the snap and start it in the other hole firstthis will turn the snap upside down and force the pressure of the blade against the solid side of the snap which will eliminate the possibility of the snap being forced open when a big bass is pulling on it. Not sure that I explained this correctly or well enough to be understoodif not, I will post a picture later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerfire Posted October 11, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 11, 2011 A picture would be great. I would really appreciate it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munkin Posted October 11, 2011 Report Share Posted October 11, 2011 http://www.jannsnetcraft.com/berkley-swivels/306108.aspx Have you tried these snaps they look stronger. Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatman Posted October 11, 2011 Report Share Posted October 11, 2011 A buddy of mine use's stainless steel oval split rings. but he says they can be a pain to put them on http://www.luremaking.com/catalogue/catalogue-index/catalogue-items/split_rings/oval_split_rings.htm Fatman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ING Posted October 12, 2011 Report Share Posted October 12, 2011 (edited) I am using the Breakaway clips: http://www.edgeangli...Spin-Links.html IMO it is some kind of oval split ring clips. They are working well and have no distinguishing sharp parts that is dangerous for line. Edited October 12, 2011 by ING Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ING Posted October 12, 2011 Report Share Posted October 12, 2011 (edited) By the way, right now I've found on the Internet Backlash Lure Clips.They are 60lb and not so expensive like Breakaway or Tactical Angler. http://www.edgeangling.com/Backlash-Lure-Clips.html Edited October 12, 2011 by ING Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smalljaw Posted October 12, 2011 Report Share Posted October 12, 2011 Actually what JBlaze told you is the right way to correct your problem. I tried other methods and the bait just doesn't work to well but if you turn the snap so that the part that opens if facing down it should correct the problem as pressure will now be forcing the snap closed rather than open, try it, you'll see that it works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ING Posted October 12, 2011 Report Share Posted October 12, 2011 (edited) I may have the solution to this. It was brought to my attention by a friend that this same thing was happening to my clatter blades (my version of chatterbait) This friend suggested that I turn the duo-lock snap upside down and the pressure would not be put on the locking part of the snap. You can check this out by tying one on and then pulling on the line while holding on to the bait. You will see that the pressure is put on the hooking side of the snap and could possibly force it open when a big fish is surging against it. Remove the snap and start it in the other hole firstthis will turn the snap upside down and force the pressure of the blade against the solid side of the snap which will eliminate the possibility of the snap being forced open when a big bass is pulling on it. Not sure that I explained this correctly or well enough to be understoodif not, I will post a picture later. According physics rules, forces applied to the front and back of the snap are absolutely equal. Why it should improve something? Edited October 12, 2011 by ING Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBlaze Posted October 14, 2011 Report Share Posted October 14, 2011 According physics rules, forces applied to the front and back of the snap are absolutely equal. Why it should improve something? ING, I don't know much about physics rules or how you seem to be applying them and No one said anything about applying forces equally to the front and back of the snap. I will try to make you understand what we are talking about. When an angler pulls on one end of this lure and a fish is pulling on the other end of the lure, depending on which way the locking side of the snap was installed up or down, the pressure, force, leverage or what ever you want to call it is applied to only one side of the snap either the locking side which could and sometimes does cause it to open or the straight or non-locking side of the snap which will not open when the pressure or leverage is applied to it. The proper way to install the locking snap to keep this from happening is with the locking side down. I suppose that there is equal force at each end front and back of the snap where the line is tied and the lure blade is attached if that is what you are thinking. As I said in my original reply, I'm not sure that I made myself clear when explaining and I don't know how to put a pic in this reply so I hope this helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ING Posted October 14, 2011 Report Share Posted October 14, 2011 (edited) May be in the case when lure attached to locking side and snap will be open during the fight, lure will slide out easier - metal sliding along metal much better. If snap will installed so that locking side will tied to leader, leaders knot, when snap happen to open, not sliding from the wire so easy. It is only one difference that could explain advantage of that method. Forces that open snap during the battle in the both cases are the same. Question only: lure will lost together with snap or snap left on the line. Probably mine explanation even more obscure vs. yours. Edited October 14, 2011 by ING Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smalljaw Posted October 14, 2011 Report Share Posted October 14, 2011 The easiest way I know to explain what JBlaze means is this, normally installing the snap on a chatter blade requires you to open the snap and insert the open end of the snap into the bottom hole of the blade and then bring it out the top hole of the blade and lock the snap. This will have the snap installed with the locking part facing up which also makes it easier to open up when fighting a fish so to make it less prone to opening you install the snap by opening it up and inserting the end of the snap into the top hole of the blade and bring it out the bottom hole and then locking it, this will have the snap installed with the locking side facing down toward the ground. Can anyone understand that? And yes, it works as I've never had one open since I started doing it that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ING Posted October 14, 2011 Report Share Posted October 14, 2011 Thanks, Finally I think I got the idea. Do you mean that way: http://www.ebay.com/itm/CBT-Chatter-BT-Bruiser-24K-Blade-1-2-oz-/160574114302?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2562f689fe or backward? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBlaze Posted October 15, 2011 Report Share Posted October 15, 2011 Thanks, Finally I think I got the idea. Do you mean that way: http://www.ebay.com/...=item2562f689fe or backward? Now we are getting somewhere. I enlarged the picture and If I am looking at this picture correctly, the snap is not right. What will happen is that when a fish tugs on this thing, the top of the blade will move forward and downward and the face of the blade will apply a downward force on the snap and could cause it to open. Turning the snap upside down eliminates this possibility. Thanks for posting the pic. John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ING Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 I have been attaching the Duo-Lock snaps from Lure Parts Online to my chatterbait blades. http://lurepartsonli...ct_detail&p=826 Then I tie my line to the snap. The problem I'm having is when I catch a big fish, it really bends the snap and opens it also. I have not found any double strength snaps otherwise I would use those. So, I was wondering, has anyone been able to put some kind of split ring on the blade for the a line tie? The split ring would provide a lot more strength. What kind of fish are you targeting with chatterbait blades? Is it improving biting? Is it useful for ocean striped bass or salmon? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerfire Posted October 17, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2011 Hopefully this will help. I'm not sure I have it yet. I took a couple of pictures. The first picture is the way I have been placing the snap. This has been causing the problems. The next photo is the same blade and snap just turned upside down. Is this what you are talking about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ING Posted October 20, 2011 Report Share Posted October 20, 2011 What kind of problems it is causing? I think it is connection what JBlaze means. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
