A-Mac Posted October 23, 2011 Report Share Posted October 23, 2011 Well its kinda a hard bait, sorta a wire bait, and then mostly whatever the 5 lures are you strap to it! In my opinion, one of the most awesome and unique ways to fish for bass I've seen... well in my lifetime! If you don't know what I'm talking about, check out flwoutdoors.com and see the absolute thumpin' that Paul Elias is laying down on the field. Just figured I'd throw this out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassnbrad Posted October 23, 2011 Report Share Posted October 23, 2011 A-Mac, you is one AMAZIN' indiovidiol! All this time I thought the Alabama was only 3 hard bodies attached!! Thanks for clarifyin' that one for me's! Can;t be awaitin' to sees them picturegraphs... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-Mac Posted October 23, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2011 Yup, I hear they are illegal in TX... so don't you worry bassnbrad, lake fork should never have to see them! dang I wish there was still such a thing as Harry and Charlie comics in the back of bassmaster... I'm sure this rig would make a humorous story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bass Man Posted October 23, 2011 Report Share Posted October 23, 2011 I have a good friend that custom paints them, in Florence Alabama. He told me about them, back in the Summer, I should have bought one!! They are winning tournaments left and right around here. I was sort of skeptical about it at first, but now I am a firm believer!! They are all out of stock now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny.Barile Posted October 23, 2011 Report Share Posted October 23, 2011 So the Alabama rig is a small umbrella rig? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassnbrad Posted October 23, 2011 Report Share Posted October 23, 2011 Similar Sonny, but its made by "Uncle Joshin'!" Illegal Shmeagle! Only illegal if you get caught with one A! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littleriver Posted October 23, 2011 Report Share Posted October 23, 2011 I am working on a Tennessee version Now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny.Barile Posted October 23, 2011 Report Share Posted October 23, 2011 It actually looks like something I would want on my boat. I fish saltwater and I have a large Umbrella rig rigged with 4 inch shads. It heavy and gets down pretty deep. I troll it for Blue Fish. The river I fish for Stripers is too shallow for it. This looks like the ticket...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juice780 Posted October 23, 2011 Report Share Posted October 23, 2011 I was just gonna post something about this a buddy just called me wanting me to make one. Paul elias caught 5 5 pounders on 1 cast in the flew tournament their having right now. Anybody know how to make these? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Largehead Louie Posted October 23, 2011 Report Share Posted October 23, 2011 I was just gonna post something about this a buddy just called me wanting me to make one. Paul elias caught 5 5 pounders on 1 cast in the flew tournament their having right now. Anybody know how to make these? I was going to ask the same thing. I was on the lake yesterday, and every FLW guy I saw was throwing these, even co-anglers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatchingConcepts Posted October 23, 2011 Report Share Posted October 23, 2011 (edited) Looks aweful simple to me... http://thealabamarig.com/ View the vids and info, easy to duplicate, even room for improvement... Edited October 23, 2011 by CatchingConcepts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Largehead Louie Posted October 23, 2011 Report Share Posted October 23, 2011 Looks aweful simple to me... http://thealabamarig.com/ View the vids and info, easy to duplicate, even room for improvement... Not that simple for me. I've never tried to make a wire bait, all I make is soft plastics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juice780 Posted October 23, 2011 Report Share Posted October 23, 2011 I can't figure out how they put all the wires in the front part, I'm assuming its wood. Other than that it looks simple I also heard some of the pros were paying 100 bucks for em because everyone was buying them up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatchingConcepts Posted October 23, 2011 Report Share Posted October 23, 2011 (edited) The wires come out of the back of the rig... Something as simple as a half ounce egg sinker with two wires bent in half through the egg sinker to create 4 of the legs and a fifth wire run through with an eye on the end. Then is cast in some resin mold to create the body and paint... looks quite simple... Edited October 23, 2011 by CatchingConcepts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Largehead Louie Posted October 24, 2011 Report Share Posted October 24, 2011 The wires come out of the back of the rig... Something as simple as a half ounce egg sinker with two wires bent in half through the egg sinker to create 4 of the legs and a fifth wire run through with an eye on the end. Then is cast in some resin mold to create the body and paint... looks quite simple... The head is not weighted. The entire rig (minus the 5 lures) is 3/8th of an ounce. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatchingConcepts Posted October 24, 2011 Report Share Posted October 24, 2011 Then minus the egg sinker, do a couple haywire twists and mold a simple resin body over the front... If you need more bouyancy use foam for the molding process of the front structure... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Largehead Louie Posted October 24, 2011 Report Share Posted October 24, 2011 (edited) Then minus the egg sinker, do a couple haywire twists and mold a simple resin body over the front... If you need more bouyancy use foam for the molding process of the front structure... Assume I'm dumb, which I am. All I have ever fooled with is soft plastics. What is a Haywire Twist, and how do I make it? Just thought about something. Could the wires not be welded together? Edited October 24, 2011 by Largehead Louie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatchingConcepts Posted October 24, 2011 Report Share Posted October 24, 2011 welding would be overkill, not necessary... Haywire twist is a simple twisting of wires just twist two doubled up wires over the main fifth wire shaft to form a bundle with five wires out the back, and a single strand shaft to form the eye out the front. for my fisrt try and ease of construction, Im betting you could slide a correct sized foam float (slip bobber or float of correct size) over the twists, epoxy into place, then form front eye, and paint... five legs just look to have simple duo lock snaps on twist formed eyes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juice780 Posted October 24, 2011 Report Share Posted October 24, 2011 i made one tonight and gave it to my buddy to try out to see if it swims, i made the body out of wood and used a belly weight like i would for crankbait minus the hook hanger. Ran one wire straight trough the bait for the front line tie and when it comes out the back its the longer center wire you tie a bait to then i took 2 peices of wire bent them in half conected it to the main wire and epoxied it in the bait. Should work ok, i need to get some heavier gauge wire. sorry no pics, i'll start working on the real ones tomorrow then i'll post pics. Question i have i seen where he had a patent pending on the bait and if i tweeked the look of the body could i sell them? I dont see how he could get a patent on this since its just a modified umbrella rig. but if i can sell em i know they will go fast, already have quite a few people looking for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-Mac Posted October 24, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2011 hudleson patented basically any swimbait tail that displaces water... so i'm sure you can patent just about anything if you have the $. To the best of my understanding, it takes 10% change to a product to go around a patent. 10% isn't that much, but again it depends on how strong their patent is and even more importantly, how strong their patent lawyer is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatchingConcepts Posted October 24, 2011 Report Share Posted October 24, 2011 Agreed, its all in the lawyers on Patents... most never bother to actually incur the patent costs and fees, just say Pats Pend and hope they slide along while an item is hot... Such minor changes could be made, even a few for the better and still use same concept on a simple device... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juice780 Posted October 24, 2011 Report Share Posted October 24, 2011 i think these things are gonna be the next hot thing, i just dont understand how they are legal in a tournament because you can only use 2 hooks at a time but i think every pro that made the final cut at the flw tournament on guntersville was throwing this thing, maybe its only legal in certain states? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-Mac Posted October 24, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2011 i think these things are gonna be the next hot thing, i just dont understand how they are legal in a tournament because you can only use 2 hooks at a time but i think every pro that made the final cut at the flw tournament on guntersville was throwing this thing, maybe its only legal in certain states? this depends on the state. For instance, having 5 hooks may be illegal in most states, but 2 or 3 hooks is not. So you could still use the rig with 5 lures, you just can't have all 5 with hooks. From my understanding, this is what striper guys do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juice780 Posted October 24, 2011 Report Share Posted October 24, 2011 (edited) here is the one i made tonight, pretty rough but im gonna work on it this week Edited October 24, 2011 by Juice780 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentle Posted October 24, 2011 Report Share Posted October 24, 2011 At $25 for some wire and swivels, there'll be lots of people making their own versions of these things, I put one together in thirty minutes tonight. Pretty simple looking, just hope it runs correct. I believe if you weight your baits properly that you put on, it'd be hard to mess up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...