archeryrob Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 Can anyone post some pics of where, how much weight they add to a wood plug? I am playing with crankbait and swim baits and am trying to get the weight addition correct. I am looking for input and examples. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 I don't think there are a lot, but do a search here for threads about weights. I am no lure master builder, but I can copy anything, and do. Successful lures have already solved most of the problems, and I can do variations of the type of lure, once I've learned how to make that style. I typically take a lure that I like, and try to simulate it's floating characteristics by floating it in my bucket of water to see how it sits. I keep my ballast as low as possible, no matter what kind of lure I'm making. For me, there are several "rules of thumb" I follow: For topwater walking baits, I want the tail to sit lower in the water than the head. The smaller the lure, the lower it should hang. 2" poppers and 4" walking baits hang down at 75 degrees. Big baits, like 7" punker knockoffs, hang almost horizontal, with the top of the head out of the water, and the rear 2/3s barely awash. The deeper the tail sits, the harder it is to walk a bait. Small baits are easy to cast and fish, and need the extra weight to walk properly, so hanging down a lot is okay. Big baits walk fine with less hang down because they are already heavy. Too much hang down in them makes walking them a brutal exercise, instead of fun fishing, because you have to fight too much water resistence if they hang low. For cranks, I try to have them hang down head first at about a 20 degree angle+-. A lure with a bill (or lip) needs to get that bill digging into the water as quickly as possible, so it will dive to it's designed depth fast, and be more effective longer. I usually use a store bought crank that's similar, and copy how it sits. Rapala DT lures are a great model to follow. I always add the ballast weight between the front hook hanger and the lip, and as low as possible. For jointed swimbaits, I try to keep the ballast as far forward as possible. I add it first to the front section, and then in the second, if needed, but never in the tail. Having the tail buoyant is the key to getting a good, horizontal swimming action at low speed. How much ballast to add depends on how you want the lure to float, or sink. I shape the lure, add the hinges, hooks, and line tie, and float test it to see how much ballast I need in order to achieve the floating/sinking I want. I hang egg sinkers and split shots from the tines of the front treble to figure out how much ballast a lure needs, and then match that amount of weight with my 1/4" lead wire that I use for the actual ballast. This is just what works for me. There are lots of different methods that work great. But this should give you somewhere to start. Good luck. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archeryrob Posted December 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 Why do belly weights get a loop on the top like a sinker? Is this for hanging them on before drilling the hole to set them in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blazt* Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 You might go to predator baits and check out the pics of unpainted cranks. Most of them are transparent, and the ballast can be seen through the plastic. Good way to get ideas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenfeather Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 Why do belly weights get a loop on the top like a sinker? Is this for hanging them on before drilling the hole to set them in? That loop serves as a hook hanger after you glue it into the bait. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archeryrob Posted December 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 (edited) That loop serves as a hook hanger after you glue it into the bait. So if I an through wiring (Muskie and Striper) I don't need that loop. Edited December 14, 2011 by archeryrob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firechief Posted December 15, 2011 Report Share Posted December 15, 2011 Here is the link to a thread that was most helpful to me in weights http://www.tackleunderground.com/community/topic/22200-archimedes-dunk-test/page__hl__%2Bdunk+%2Btest__fromsearch__1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...