mattwv Posted December 18, 2011 Report Share Posted December 18, 2011 This little bait is 2inches long and is made from cedar from the hardware store. Unsure of the exact cedar but i also attatched a picture if someone could tell me which cedar i have. My main question is do you think the bill will over power this bait? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedyarb Posted December 18, 2011 Report Share Posted December 18, 2011 My guess is it will swim. But? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwfflipper Posted December 18, 2011 Report Share Posted December 18, 2011 It should be ok, I don't see anything as to make not run right as I have lips that are as long as my bait and they run just fine. Just make sure everything is inline and balanced right. Jeff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattwv Posted December 18, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2011 Thanks guys, i thought it would be ok but just wated to get some opinios. Any thoughts on the cedar? And i have some waterbased poly crylic should i dip first? This one turned out good so i dont wanna mess it up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littleriver Posted December 18, 2011 Report Share Posted December 18, 2011 (edited) The question is what angle is this bill set with the horizontal line of bait. If shallow the line tie will need to be on bill for this to swim. It looks shallow in pic but hard to tell. If no swim definetly move tie to bill. Edited December 18, 2011 by littleriver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattwv Posted December 18, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2011 LR, That was my fear of the line tie needing to be out on the lip. Can i drill the lip thats on it or should i just order some? It hasnt been glued in yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattwv Posted December 18, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2011 This help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littleriver Posted December 18, 2011 Report Share Posted December 18, 2011 I feel a line tie placed where bill meet body may work. I would drill where they meet and intstall. Temporary tie for testing . The tie or loop should rest on bill. Might even make loop a little larger to put it out on bill further. If this does not work then I would drill holes centered on the bill you have there. I do not think there is need to place too far out on bill. Maybe an eighth noore than a quarter inch in. Dremel makes a set of bits with smallest bits I have ever seen that are perfect for line tie holes on bill. Good luck. ............Vic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted December 18, 2011 Report Share Posted December 18, 2011 For me, the best way to see if it will work is to install the hook hangers and line tie, seal it all well, add the hooks, and take it for a test drive. Like littleriver said, the placement of the line tie is important. The longer the bill, the more it needs to be out on the bill, to give it enough leverage to control the lure's wiggle and not have the bill overpower the lure. But I don't have any kind of a formula for where to put the line tie. Mostly, I look at other lures of similar size and bill, and use them as a guide. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pizza Posted December 21, 2011 Report Share Posted December 21, 2011 I would guess yes. Impossible to say for sure as the amount/distribution of ballast will also have a (significant) effect on whether or not it swims or "blows out" during retrieve. I believe the greater the amount of ballast and more it is to the front, the greater the odds of it swimming. But just from looking at it, nothing too extreme going on in that bait. Ive made similar style baits withi lips at least that size and they swim fine. In fact i have found that larger lips can lead to hunting cranks. And a more erratic action at higher speeds. The more erratic action one can get, the better....as long as the bait still retrieves in an overall straight line and doesnt rolll during the fastest retrieves you reel in at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattwv Posted December 23, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 23, 2011 I've installed everything, and put a thin coat of dev 2 on it and am going to test it out. I made the line tie come out about 3/16. It floats great in the sink so we shall see. Thanks for the input guys! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musky Glenn Posted December 29, 2011 Report Share Posted December 29, 2011 It looks like Eastern Red Cedar to me. Musky Glenn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
