TwoBits Posted April 14, 2004 Report Share Posted April 14, 2004 I searched the entire forum for this but can't seem to find where its ever been discussed. What do y'all use to hang your jigs on when you cure the powder paint in the oven? Thanks in advance for all replys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siebler_custom_baits Posted April 14, 2004 Report Share Posted April 14, 2004 i have a cookie sheet they hang over. i took a wire cloths hanger and bent it so it will stand on the sheet and has a bar accros the top. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tally Posted April 15, 2004 Report Share Posted April 15, 2004 Go to walmart and buy a baking pan. Mine is rectangular and about 5" deep. Cut the strait section of a wire clothes hanger and weld them to the top. I have 4 on mine and holds 10 jigs per hanger or a total of 40. If you need more info, just ask. (make sure the pan will fit in the oven if you are using a toaster/oven). Tally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basskat Posted April 15, 2004 Report Share Posted April 15, 2004 I hang mine on the rack in the oven. I cover the bottom rack with foil so if anything drips. Of course being single has it's advantages. I only cook lures in my oven! There's a whole section in the Tutorials section on powder paint, pictures and all. Check it out........kat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powder Guy Posted April 16, 2004 Report Share Posted April 16, 2004 I use paper clips for just about everything. Take a paper clip and bend it out so there is a hook on both ends...one hook holds the part the other goes over the bar or rack in your oven. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JIGMAKER Posted April 17, 2004 Report Share Posted April 17, 2004 If any one has a pic of what they made could they post it I would like to see what you all are using. I am having a hard time picturing what you guys are describing. I need to make some thing my self as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basskat Posted April 18, 2004 Report Share Posted April 18, 2004 I didn't have to make it. I use the rack that's in my kitchen oven. I would guess you're using a toaster oven. I've thought about getting one but I don't use powder paint on anything except jigs and I only make a few of those. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JIGMAKER Posted April 18, 2004 Report Share Posted April 18, 2004 Yes, I am going to be using a toster oven. All of the ovens I have seen have not fit my needs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tally Posted April 19, 2004 Report Share Posted April 19, 2004 Jigmaker- here is two pictures that should give you an idea. Don't take this the wrong way, but use your imagination to make the things you need. I am constantly trying new ideas. Some work and some don't. I hope the pictures get you going in the right direction. I also use a toaster over. Good Luck!! Tally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JIGMAKER Posted April 20, 2004 Report Share Posted April 20, 2004 Thank you, that is what I needed. Sometimes all that is needed is an idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabled Posted April 21, 2004 Report Share Posted April 21, 2004 Here's how I paint mine - I place all my jigs on the aluminum pan that comes with most toaster ovens and put them in an old toaster oven @ about 375 degrees. After a few minutes, I take them out one by one with a pair of needlenose pliers, dip 'em, and hang them on the outside edge of an old serving bowl. The serving bowl is about 12" in diameter with edges that come out at an angle (about 45 degrees), it doesn't curve up near vertical like a typical bowl. The jigs hang around the outside without contacting the bowl and it holds about 25 jigs. After the bowl is "full", I just slip it in my kitchen oven for 20 minutes to cure the paint. I find this easier than slipping jigs down between racks that I occasionally touch with a freshly painted jig. That hasn't happened to me yet with the bowl system. Just another idea for you if you care to try it out... cabled Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JIGMAKER Posted April 21, 2004 Report Share Posted April 21, 2004 Thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoBits Posted April 22, 2004 Author Report Share Posted April 22, 2004 If you heat the jig heads in the oven, how long do you have to dip them before they cool down? How many can you heat and dip at one time? I was just using a charcoal lighter, I guess the oven works much better? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topher Posted April 22, 2004 Report Share Posted April 22, 2004 If you guys wanna get serious, use an oven, a fluid bed, and about 8 to 10 of CSI's clamping racks, 2 guys can powder about 400 jigs an hour with clean eyelets, and 3 tones, and no overspray... Takes time to master it.... don't mean to sound coceded, just trying to let you know the fast way to powder. Of course there is the $$$ factor... about $600 to get all this equip. Plus 2#'s of each color powder to start... We run a 16x 6 fluid bed, 8 15" clamping racks, 4 spray guns, and a really trippy used oven.... (not for cooking purposes, or it would be really really trippy). If you guys have any questions, email me as I don't get back here to check in very often. ctopher76@charter.net Good Luck, Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabled Posted April 22, 2004 Report Share Posted April 22, 2004 Chris - Sounds like you have the system down! As for myself, still doing it as a hobby and not quite ready to dive in that deep. Sounds like the way to go though. I may contact you in the future... Two Bits - Once the jigs are heated up, you gotta dip them pretty quickly. I just load them all side by side with the hooks facing the door, swing the door open, grab one, dip it, tap the excess off on the side of the jar, and hang it on the bowl. I usually do 25 at a time (that's what the bowl will hold. After that, heat cure. One thing I didn't mention earlier - this bowl is kind of like a clamshell around the outside, so each jig has its own "place" around the rim to keep them from sliding into each other. Don Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topher Posted April 22, 2004 Report Share Posted April 22, 2004 If you guys are going to only heat up a small number of jigs and dip them one color, just use a $10 propane torch. it only takes 5 seconds to heat up 3/8 oz. jigs... LITERALLY... if you go too long you will have a lot of annoying little grey spots on you and your clothes, and everywhere else... just make sure that you keep your powder nice and fluffy. check out this website, it has some decent info... www.csipaint.com chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabled Posted April 22, 2004 Report Share Posted April 22, 2004 Thanks for the torch tip and I'll check the website. cabled Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JIGMAKER Posted April 22, 2004 Report Share Posted April 22, 2004 Most of the jigs I make are one oz. and up (saltwater). I tried the torch on a three oz. jig and the results were bad. I felt that the jig did not heat uniformlly. The powder paint did not cover the jig. I heated the jig up some more and ended up with some thick paint, ugly jigs. I thought if I put them in the oven for a while they would heat more uniformly and cover better. I have been using vinyl paint, but the fumes are bad. I have to make muliple coats and wait for dring. I want to be able to make them faster. Powder paint seems to be the way to go in my opinion, if I can get the technique down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tally Posted April 23, 2004 Report Share Posted April 23, 2004 Jigmaker- When you use the torch, try heating up one side and then the other. Make sure you count how long you heat it up so when you get it right you will know how long to heat up the rest of your jigs. I probably have 100 jig heads that are experimental and now junk, but I learned how to use powder quite well. You can get a bunch of ideas here on how to do it but you will never fully understand how to use powder until you keep experimenting until you get it right. By the way, some colors will require more heat time and some will require less. Try heating the jigs almost to the point of melting (remember to count) and then dip into the powder. You also have to stir the powder to keep it fluffy between dips. Normally, I can dip 2 times and then stir. Hope this helps. Tally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dayooper Posted April 23, 2004 Report Share Posted April 23, 2004 I use a heat gun and slowly rotate the jig or spinner blade and then a quick dip in the paint. Remember to count how long you hold it in the heat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LedHed Posted April 23, 2004 Report Share Posted April 23, 2004 I use a heavy duty heat gun that has temperature settings on it to pre heat my jigs and re-heat jigs to do two tone paints. Usually set it for 300 to 325 (depending on jig size) - heat the jig up (I use a small pair of vise grips to hold the jig) and dip in the fluffed powder. The setting is lower then the usual remmended temp, but it heats the jig enough to get the powder to adhere in an even coat. It makes it alot easier to clean the eye. Then it goes into the toaster oven to cure at recommended temp and minimum 25 minutes. This works for jigs up to 2oz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jig head Posted April 30, 2004 Report Share Posted April 30, 2004 As far as curing in a toaster oven, I made a simple modification on my toaster oven the other night that made things much easier. Mine has a rack with the bars running from front to back rather than side to side. I took a file and put shallow grooves in each bar aabout every half inch or so. I can now pull the rack out, slide a jig into a slot after it is painted, and not have to worry about them swinging or sliding into each other. It has enough grooves to do maybe 130, which is more than I typically do at a time. It made it a bit easier than just hanging them on the unmodified rack. I don't worry about drips as I very rarely have any dripping anymore and this is the only thing this toaster oven is used for. Brian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
