Stick~em Posted May 19, 2003 Report Share Posted May 19, 2003 I was wondering if anyone here uses recycled plastics? I have used a few sassy shad paddle tails (recycled-duplicated knock offs) trolling for Stripers from companys that retail these junky plastics at Fishing Shows such as "The Worm Farm", Geoges Jumpin' Lizards and so on... They tear so easy after trolling for just a half hour compared to say. Any input would clear up the whys of and hows companys do this... Thanks, Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delw Posted May 20, 2003 Report Share Posted May 20, 2003 I use my plastics over when I get enough of them... but only on my personal baits... Some baits are soft and come apart real easy... you will find alot of people will buy the soft baits before the harder ones.. Delw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stick~em Posted May 20, 2003 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2003 Thanks for the reply... I believe when folks buy the recycled plastic to use for retail, it might just be cheaper than your new product... Screemin' Reels! Mike "If your wife isn't mad at you for fishing too much, you're not fishing enough!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsworms Posted May 20, 2003 Report Share Posted May 20, 2003 I recycle plastic, but just for tails and veins. I'm not sure if I would trust it for more than that. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stick~em Posted May 20, 2003 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2003 Someone was telling me the other day that Berkley uses Banana oil in some of their Power Baits. I know it does stink up your box if you don't have zipped up properly... whewwww.... But they're so soft they tear so easy when a toothy critter such as a Walleye hits them and munches a few seconds till you set the hook.. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senkosam Posted May 26, 2003 Report Share Posted May 26, 2003 When I recycle old plastics, I alway add hardener. The action is still good but the plastic is durable. Sam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stick~em Posted May 26, 2003 Author Report Share Posted May 26, 2003 Thanks Senkosam; I didn't know there was a hardener for regrinds. Now we will be offering an accelerator for repairing the new cyberflexxx baits shortly. After 10 minutes of set time, you can restretch to 3' feet again... Have you been pouring your own baits for a long time? Screemin' Reel's! Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senkosam Posted May 26, 2003 Report Share Posted May 26, 2003 Just started pouring a week ago. Still having problems making flor. colors bright. Here's a few sticks I poured - new colors ordered. Also pictured are 'fusion' baits that have done very well. (kalin crappie grub/berkley 2" power tube (clearance at Dick's for .97); 2.5" doubletail grubs from Cabela's. I like the site - my first time posting here. Great info and idea exchange. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stick~em Posted May 28, 2003 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2003 Hey they all look pretty good to me buddy.. And if they look good to us, the fish gotta like' em... Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haebar Posted July 7, 2005 Report Share Posted July 7, 2005 When you guys melt down old plastic lures do you put them in some liquid plastisol to keep them from scorching? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm Posted July 7, 2005 Report Share Posted July 7, 2005 I recycle my plain plastic lures after they get torn up. I just wash them to get the sand from the bottom of the boat off, and store them in a coffee can till I need some black for blackheads. I throw away the salted, and heavily flakes ones. I think the remelt plastic, perhaps with a little hardener, will make a good pattern plastic instead of the more expensive silicone, especially for simple fairly open molds. I definitely wouldn't sell baits made from recycled plastic (been fished with). There just isn't enough volume to mess with the quality control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haebar Posted July 7, 2005 Report Share Posted July 7, 2005 Are the worms you make from recycled lures harder than virgin worms? Does the plastic get harder with each re-melt? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamakazee Posted July 7, 2005 Report Share Posted July 7, 2005 I've got barrels of plastic ( runners ) from the injection process that I'd get rid of for real cheep! Calhouns med & soft plastic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texasbass1 Posted July 7, 2005 Report Share Posted July 7, 2005 Senkosam, You are a riot! Pouring for a week. :grin: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamakazee Posted July 7, 2005 Report Share Posted July 7, 2005 I do use a lot of recyceled plastic in different processes but can't in the injection machine. Just add liquid plastic with the recyceled plastic and it heats with no problems, I've done it for 15 years :!: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm Posted July 7, 2005 Report Share Posted July 7, 2005 Are the worms you make from recycled lures harder than virgin worms? Does the plastic get harder with each re-melt? Thanks They are a little harder. Colors are hard to reproduce, so about all you can do with it is make black worms. It works good for the black heads because the harder head stays on the kink in the hook forever. The runners sound pretty attractive. In small quantities we pay 2 bucks or so for virgin plastic. Injection runners probably have not been heated very hot or long, only hot enough to squeeze into a mold, and for a few seconds. (I assume that Kamakazee is using a screw type injection machine where the mix is stirred, heated, and then jammed into the mold, all in a few seconds by a combination screw/plunger.) I'll look on the trading board. jm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senkosam Posted July 7, 2005 Report Share Posted July 7, 2005 Texas - did you happen to notice .... that week was in 2003? LOL Time has sure passed and even I'm impressed with how far I've come in making baits that blow away manufactured stuff. I'd be proud to swap mine with anyone now, even though the baits I sent to the swap back in 2003 were still decent sticks, from 2 part plaster molds. Wish I got input regarding them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haebar Posted July 7, 2005 Report Share Posted July 7, 2005 JM, I was wondering what you meant by black heads. Do you pour just the heads with black recycled plastic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm Posted July 8, 2005 Report Share Posted July 8, 2005 I was wondering what you meant by black heads. Do you pour just the heads with black recycled plastic? _________________ Haebar> Earlier in this post I wrote about how I pour black heads in a tilted mold, then trim them and by pouring, weld them to a different colored tail in the same mold. jm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamakazee Posted July 8, 2005 Report Share Posted July 8, 2005 In the closed system of the injection machine there is no burnoff ( steam ) of stabilizer, the plastic will not loose any of it's properties ( softness ).The plastic in the heated state less than 5 min. As for using runners from the injection prosess to reheat, just add liquid plastic and nuke it (microwave). I'd charge $10+ shipping, you would get about 3/4 a 5 gal. bucket of runners As for the colors available www.kamakazeebaitco.com look at the lizard & Kikker grub colors to choose,this is med. plastic. The Hitzit tubes are a little harder. Tight Lines. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm Posted July 8, 2005 Report Share Posted July 8, 2005 Kamakazee, How much does 3/4 bucket of runners weigh? jm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamakazee Posted July 9, 2005 Report Share Posted July 9, 2005 JM 25lbs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm Posted July 9, 2005 Report Share Posted July 9, 2005 Whata deal, I'm going to visit some of my kids in Montana tomorrow. When I get back I'll get in touch. BTW, does anybody know if a black bass lives in Montana? jm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamakazee Posted July 9, 2005 Report Share Posted July 9, 2005 JM I know they have smallmouth, but not sure of the largemouth. Tight Lines, Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haebar Posted July 10, 2005 Report Share Posted July 10, 2005 Largemouth not likely in Montana, unless stocked, nurtured and heated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
