MrCribs Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 i want to make some perch patterns ''rapala style'' but i cant find any transparent yellow paint. so i was thinking about putting on a layer of transparent yellow colored epoxy after foiling, but i dont know what i could use to color the epoxy and if that actually works. if id put non transparent paint in the epoxy would the epoxy loose its tranparency ? i was wondering if you guys maybe have experience with this or any advice. thanks in advance, Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBlaze Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 I have wondered about this also. Do you think that the ink that you would use to refill an ink jet cartridge woud work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crzyjunyer Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 what kind of paint are you using or looking for ? i know createx and auto air both have tranparent yellows. you can also reduce most wicked colors down to make them transparent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrCribs Posted January 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 Jblaze, i have no idea mayb its worth a try crzyjunyer, at the moment i only have rattle cans, i just started making lures. some colors are transparent the first layer, others arent. (the green version is, the yellow isnt). the problem with these paints is i think that they are water based (water carried). im not sure but i dont think they are suited for mixing with epoxy, and i dont know how to reduce them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littleriver Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 Hobby lobby here has transparent yellow. Micheals has createx as well clearanced. Something I do is thin whatever paint i have on hand. i mean really really thin. You'll need a medicine cup and a paper clip or similar. Dip the clip in the paint and put two or three spots on bottom of cup. Now depending on the paint your thinning agent. Usually four or five large drops and mix with the clip. Test the consistancy back of plate with a brush and dilute till it suits you. Now you have your own transparent color. The trick is to really dilute out the pigment. Good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littleriver Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 ps i use nothing but water based paints with epoxy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny.Barile Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 water based polyurethane (ac moore and alike) mixed with a little water based acrylic paint (drops). I have done this successfully. It works as long as you mix the crap out of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travis Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 I recall reading guys using food coloring to do this on model forums. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrCribs Posted January 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 I recall reading guys using food coloring to do this on model forums. i thought of that too, mayb it isnt as rediculous as i thought it was. and i guess its water based too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrhopkins Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 i have used acrylic paint mixed with epoxy with no problem. you don't need much! just a tiny bit. mix epoxy first and then add color and mix again. remember you can always add paint, you can't take it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pizza Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 This stuff works well for adding transparent tint to epoxy. http://www.iasco-tesco.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=674&category_id=31&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordon Posted January 23, 2012 Report Share Posted January 23, 2012 I posed the question of coloring epoxy too. The feedback was that you should use soft plastic colors mixed with the adhesive and then mix with the hardener. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sallystrothers Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 You could also use powder based colorants. They tend to be fairly inert and do not impact reactions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retrobass Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 You could also use powder based colorants. They tend to be fairly inert and do not impact reactions. A friend recently bought some very fine, shiney pigment for working with polymer clay when we were in hobby lobby. It's almost like glitter, except a thousand times finer. I suppose it could be the metalic flake thats in pearlescent paints. Anybody tried mixing this stuff with epoxy/ e tech? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravenlures Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 You could try Mixol Dye. http:www.woodcraft...Tones-Set.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nova Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 (edited) What about trying highlight powders in the clearcoat that us softbait guys use? www.novalures.com Edited January 25, 2012 by nova Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firechief Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 Could you use some rattle can clear over the foil and then shoot some transparent Createx over that? Im not sure I understand the need for tinting the clear coat epoxy. Maybe I misunderstood the question. I do hower see how one can make transparent out of colors that normaly are not trans. This opens up some new areas for me to think about. Thanks for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayburnGuy Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 Could you use some rattle can clear over the foil and then shoot some transparent Createx over that? Im not sure I understand the need for tinting the clear coat epoxy. Maybe I misunderstood the question. I do hower see how one can make transparent out of colors that normaly are not trans. This opens up some new areas for me to think about. Thanks for that. I think the problem he's having is that he can't find any transparent yellow paint that's available in his area and he is trying to come up with a way to work around that problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firechief Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 Like I said " I didnt understand the question" That is normal for me. However in thinking about tinting the epoxy, it may give the bait a totally differnt hue of color on top of the regular paint, maybe it would create a whole different range of colors ect. Maybe it would be a good application in the area of a "ghost" bait of some sort. Man I love this forum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeeter Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 You can add paint to epoxy but I don't think it will give you the results that you want. I would stick with finding the right paint. What kind of paint do you currently use? If it is water based then find transparent createx at a hobby store or off of the internet. Super thinning any paint to get it transparent is not really good either. You really have to shoot it VERY lightly through the air brush or else it will run. If you shoot lacquer then go kind of heavy with retarder. This will work but again it can run. You would have to shoot multiple light coats. I have seen guys use Zoom coloring markers to get the effect after the lure is clear coated. It works but it is not very professional looking. Skeeter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firechief Posted January 26, 2012 Report Share Posted January 26, 2012 I saw some tint for varnish that might work in the epoxy. Then again ... I use Createx mostly and will probably do well just to stay with what works for me. This info is why I shop here first before going to the store Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayburnGuy Posted January 26, 2012 Report Share Posted January 26, 2012 Dang it. Now ya'll have got me thinking about this. What about some of the pastel chalk like artists use? If it could be ground up into a sort of dust it might work. Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeeter Posted January 26, 2012 Report Share Posted January 26, 2012 I understand working thru a problem. But you guys are just knocking your brains out. Just find the right paint. Skeeter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammy01007 Posted January 26, 2012 Report Share Posted January 26, 2012 (edited) If you are trying to get a base of yellow without losing the shine of the foil, I like the way colored tissue paper works over the foil. Obviously you will be limitted by the shades of yellow paper you can find. Edited January 26, 2012 by sammy01007 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offdtop Posted February 5, 2012 Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 A friend recently bought some very fine, shiney pigment for working with polymer clay when we were in hobby lobby. It's almost like glitter, except a thousand times finer. I suppose it could be the metalic flake thats in pearlescent paints. Anybody tried mixing this stuff with epoxy/ e tech? I have used that glitter and used it in conjunction with devcon, if you are talking about the polymer stuff. It works beautifully and lays down smooth. A friend recently bought some very fine, shiney pigment for working with polymer clay when we were in hobby lobby. It's almost like glitter, except a thousand times finer. I suppose it could be the metalic flake thats in pearlescent paints. Anybody tried mixing this stuff with epoxy/ e tech? I have used that glitter and used it in conjunction with devcon, if you are talking about the polymer stuff. It works beautifully and lays down smooth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
