dlaery Posted February 6, 2012 Report Share Posted February 6, 2012 I powder painted some heads white with a fluid bed. Baked the powder then decided to add chartreuse as a highlight color. when I tried to bake the chartreuse, it did not flow like I thought it should. I had do some others, but I did not bake before adding the chartreuse and those look good. I thought the chartreuse would flow on the already baked heads but I guess not. Has anyone tried to add powder after baking and then re-bake? Thanks, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basseducer Posted February 6, 2012 Report Share Posted February 6, 2012 David, I've only done that a couple times and it turned out OK. You can try powder water, it says to bake before using it to add another color. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlaery Posted February 6, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2012 thanks TJ. I am putting the powder on with a brush. Put some powder on the brush and tapping to put the powder on top of the jig. It worked great on heads that were powder painted not baked. I used the powder water for the 1st time today. We painted a shad spot using the powder water it worked good. I have thought about buying a powder spray gun, small like an air brush, to do the highlights with powder. I have an old Badger air brush I thought about trying to make it work. Has anyone used the powder water to spray through an air brush? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basseducer Posted February 7, 2012 Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 I have four of the Badger guns used for powder. The powder water I spray with a cheap external mix siphon air brush. Not any good for fine details, but blends colors pretty well. I put all my colors on before I bake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted February 7, 2012 Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 Don't shoot! What's powder water? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlaery Posted February 7, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 It is a liquid you mix with powder paint to make it a liquid so you can shoot it through a paint gun and then bake it in an oven. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted February 7, 2012 Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 It is a liquid you mix with powder paint to make it a liquid so you can shoot it through a paint gun and then bake it in an oven. Where do you buy it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlaery Posted February 7, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 Columbia Coatings, powderbythepound, powder365 I am not sure if all of these have it or not, but I know at least one of them will Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted February 7, 2012 Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 (edited) Thanks. I'll check that out. I just went to Columia Coatings, and they have it. I'm too cheap to buy it, but thanks for the links, and the info. Edited February 7, 2012 by mark poulson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basseducer Posted February 7, 2012 Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 (edited) Mark, After using it I beleive it is very close to Photo-flo, a wetting agent used in the developement of phtographs, but I am not sure. Haven't had a chance to try it out. Edited February 7, 2012 by Basseducer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlaery Posted February 7, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 I have four of the Badger guns used for powder. The powder water I spray with a cheap external mix siphon air brush. Not any good for fine details, but blends colors pretty well. I put all my colors on before I bake. Can you leave it in the gun or do you need to clean it out after each use? does it clean up with "water"? or do you need laq thinner? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basseducer Posted February 7, 2012 Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 The carrier (powder water) will evaporate off leaving the powder in a caked form. You can add more powder water and re-mix it. I remove the jar from the gun and cap it tightly then clean the gun with water Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlaery Posted February 7, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 Thanks, I am going to give it a try with the air brush Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 Mark, After using it I beleive it is very close to Photo-flo, a wetting agent used in the developement of phtographs, but I am not sure. Haven't had a chance to try it out. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadman Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 David, As far as your initial post. Yes I do this all the time. I put another color of powder paint over an already baked jig. The reason I know this works because about 5 years ago, I was painting a multi-color jig, and I had yellow chartreuse as a base color with beige on the belly, orange on the upper belly, purple on the lower flanks, blue on the upper flanks and black along the dorsal line. This is the sequence I wanted all of my colors. Well when I baked everything, everything came out perfectly glossy except the purple blended into the yeloow chartreuse and it turned green. Not the color I was looking for. So I played around with baking temps and still no luck. So I painted up another jig with all the color except the last consecutive three being, purple, blue and black. I baked the jig. Now I took the jig and reheated it. put on the purple, then the blue and then the black, melted it into each other and put it back into the oven to bake. Worked like a charm. Now I got the puple onto the yellow chartreuse like I originally wanted. The down side to all of this is it is time consuming and you have to use really low heat on the remainder of the colors. Once you get them melted and gloss over you're home free. The biggest stumbling block is trying not to burn the original colors you had baked on. So it does work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlaery Posted February 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 Thanks Ted, I really was impressed watching you do this at the TU meet. You made it look so easy. You are definitely the master. We didn't spend a lot of time tying to correct the ones that had been pre-baked I was just surprised that it wouldn't flow on top of the already baked White. I just won't do that again. No more baking before highlights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
