EironBreaker Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 Has anybody tried another type of mold release spray like silicone or teflon instead of the specific mold release spray? I've tried to order a can off Ebay and they didn't ship. Just thought I might be able to pick something up locally instead of waiting on a shipment through the mail. Any suggestions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jig Man Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 (edited) I haven't but Nixa Country gun and pawn might have something or Ozark Shooters. I got mine in Wichita, KS but they couldn't mail it and had to Fed Ex so shipping was more than the agent. How many molds do you need to spray? Edited February 14, 2012 by Jig Man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSC Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 I use the store bought release (cant think of the name) But in a pinch "Soot it Up" with a candle flame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 Will PAM cooking spray work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EironBreaker Posted February 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 I don't want to find out the hard way that some type of spray won't work and get splattered in the process with hot lead. I don't think PAM would work because it leaves a liquid behind. Sooting the mold I don't think is the same as using mold release spray. From what I understand, mold release will allow the lead to fall out of the mold without hardly touching it. Sooting doesn't do much from what I've seen. I'll see if the local gun shops have something on hand. As far as how many molds, well, lets say I have an addiction. I own about all of the jig type molds Do-It makes and a few other brands as well. Cadman: how often do you need to spray your molds with release agent? I'd assume after every so many pours right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadman Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 (edited) As far as how many molds, well, lets say I have an addiction. I own about all of the jig type molds Do-It makes and a few other brands as well. Cadman: how often do you need to spray your molds with release agent? I'd assume after every so many pours right? C'mon you have an addiction? Let's be serious If you have an addiction then I need to be in rehab surrounded by all my molds in my happy little corner of the room pouring and paiting. Somewhere around 130 molds. Anyway getting back to business. I have tried a lot of things and only two things worked so far. Candle soot to me (JMO) never worked and it gets my nice dishwater hands dirty. Don't use Pam, it has liquid in it. So about 4 years ago, a friend of mine gave me some CRC teflon spray to try (I think that's what it was). Anyway that did work however it was around $30 for a 12 oz spray can and I didn't want to spend that kind of money at the time. Then someone told me to try Drop Out from Frankford Arsenal. Been using it ever since, and would never look back. If you can't get good pours with Drop Out then you are doing something wrong. You clean your existing mold with lacquer thinner to get all of the oils and crap off. I tape everything on both mold halves except the cavity opening this way it doesn't spray all over. Shake can thoroughly, spray on an even coat on all cavities, both sides (it doesn't take much) and let dry (about 10 minutes). Take off tape. Then get your mold hot and start pouring. It is like night and day. As far as longevity goes. I can roughly pour 500-700 jigs on one coating. Since the coating goes on gray, you will see it wear off as your silver aluminum starts showing through. Then clean the mold all over again and spray again. One thing I did want to mention is this. I started to get lazy and didn't want to clean the old spray off. Well that is not a good idea. reason being is when I kept re-applying with out cleaning the old stuff off, the spray started to build up and if you have any dirt in there or excessive drip from the spray, this will transfer on the jig. I found that out the hard way as one time my football jigs all of a sudden started to develope a small dimple on one side. I couldn't figure it out until I looked in the mold half and scraped the cavity with my fingernail. Apparently as I was reapplying the spray, a small particle of dirt was sitting in the cavity and the spray covered it, leaving a bulge, which transfered onto the jig. Sorry for the long dissertation, but I'm at work doing this and getting paid for it. Edited February 14, 2012 by cadman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadman Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 Still on the clock so I can type more. One thing I want to mention is that once you spray on the mold release and you make your first pour, you will see the lead run in the mold and out the bottom just like waer. So as fast as lead is pouring in it is pouring out just as fast. This shows you how slick(slippery) this stuff is. Now the statement above is with no hooks or base hole pin on the mold. Naturally lead won't keep pouring out of the mold once you put a hook in and the base hole pin. Glad I clarified that, people will be wanting to know why the lead isn't pouring out after the hooks are in. Doh!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloomisman Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 Will PAM cooking spray work? I've tried it and it doesnt work very well. I didnt notice much difference except it rippled the lead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EironBreaker Posted February 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 Thanks Cadman! Looks like I need to find some of the drop out spray. As far as molds, I'm south of 100 but not too far. Glad there's a support group to discuss issues such as these so it doesn't effect our "normal" lives! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 My name is Mark, and I'm a luraholic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuzzyGrub Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 Ted, thx for the tip on cleaning between applications. DOH I've just been re-spraying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jig Man Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 Matt the reason I asked how many is I only have 2 or 3 that have had to be sprayed. If you have a pesky mold or so, you could bring them by and spray them at my house as we only live about 10-12 miles apart. I bought mine for the poison tail mold which has given me fits since day one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtn lures Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 Matt the reason I asked how many is I only have 2 or 3 that have had to be sprayed. If you have a pesky mold or so, you could bring them by and spray them at my house as we only live about 10-12 miles apart. I bought mine for the poison tail mold which has given me fits since day one. Same problem with the poison tail mold. Bought the frankford arsenal spray from Barlows and put it on all my molds and took care of all my pouring issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadman Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 Thanks Cadman! Looks like I need to find some of the drop out spray. As far as molds, I'm south of 100 but not too far. Glad there's a support group to discuss issues such as these so it doesn't effect our "normal" lives! I bought mine from Zeiner's in Wichita Kansas, good place to buy molds as well as they are the cheaper than others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadman Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 My name is Mark, and I'm a luraholic. No not you too Mark. But you must be, because I thought I had a high thread/post count but you got me beat by more than double. Sorry my friend. You need to be in a nice warm an cozy room too, with no visitors so you can continue on this journey of madness Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EironBreaker Posted February 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2012 Thanks for the offer Jig Man. You are right, I only have trouble with a couple molds that I use regularly. One is a FB mold that I've modified and another a custom mold. I'll just get me a can because you just never know when you will need it. Thanks to all members of this board, everyone is very helpful and willing to share information that takes years to figure out on your own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted February 16, 2012 Report Share Posted February 16, 2012 No not you too Mark. But you must be, because I thought I had a high thread/post count but you got me beat by more than double. Sorry my friend. You need to be in a nice warm an cozy room too, with no visitors so you can continue on this journey of madness This is what happens to a carpenter/contractor with no work for 3+ years. "An idle mind is the devil's workshop". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
