DriftnOut Posted February 19, 2012 Report Share Posted February 19, 2012 Hey people, I am new to powder painting and new to this site as well. I have been powder painting for a few weeks now and can do solid colors and two tone colors that have a nice professional look to them, but when I try a 3 tone or 4 tone color on a spinner blade for instance I get a lot of over spray wich clouds the other colors. I have tried multiple angles lowering pressure with multiple angles and I have been unsuccesful. Is this possible for this application or am I trying to do too much. I am using the powder paint gun that is sold by Tjs and usually have my air set to 7-10 lbs. Also my application is to only paint only one side of the blade so dipping is not an option. Thank you in advance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smalljaw Posted February 19, 2012 Report Share Posted February 19, 2012 DriftnOut, I use an airbrush/gun like what you have and I use if for all my multicolor baits, and what you want to do is possible but it depends on how you go about it. Firt off, are you talkinging about willow blades or colorado,etc? and are you wanting the different colors to go from the top down? Until I know I will try to give you a generic answer, first of all your air is too high, it should be no higher than 2, I use the higher pressure to create overspray when I'm blending colors. The next thing you need to remember is you are not going to be able to have seamless clean lines from 1 color to the next, instead what you get is a shadinging into another color. If you want the fine clean lines between colors you need to get a good airbrush and use airbrush paint, the nature of powder melting on the hot surface of a spinner blade isn't exact so it is basically impossible to have fine detail. If you flip though the spinnerbait gallery a few pages you'll see spinnerbaits I have made, these were all done with powder and the air gun method, this will give an idea of what you can do. Remember, spraying powder will let you blend color and get nice shadine effects, it will not allow you to do fine detail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriftnOut Posted February 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2012 Yes, I understand i will get some blending and i l actually want that so no problem there. I am painting colorados, cascade, and willoleafs of various sizes usually not smaller than #5s. As for air pressue when i drop down below 5psi my brush does not want to shoot the powder real well. I am trying to duplicate a blade color that I am successfull with on a cascade blade which goes from a dark green to yellow chartruse to white and then repeats the chart and green again. I know I am new but im pretty crafty and have some beautifull two tones its really frustrating me. Also I have my booths set up for shooting different colors and I have notice some poeple have a vacum set up ontheres with a filter should I do this to pull away errant powder from my blade? Thank you for your response. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smalljaw Posted February 19, 2012 Report Share Posted February 19, 2012 If you want to try the shop vac then try it, it may help but what I would do is get your air down first. Once you have the air down to were you can spray try to get a little closer to the blade and use quick taps to spray, don't hold the button down. You can also use a piece of cardboard or something as an edger, basically hold it so it covers the area of the blade you don't want to paint. For a 4 color blade like you are trying to do you may want to make a template that you can place over the blade and then apply the colors. For your color pattern I would paint the whole blade white and then add your other colors one by one and try using the edger I described and get closer to your blade, the lower aire pressure and getting closer to your blade will really cut down on the overspray. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriftnOut Posted February 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2012 Thank you, I will try all the things you mentioned see how it works out for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
defish Posted February 20, 2012 Report Share Posted February 20, 2012 Check out the powder painted spinner blades on this post that must be made using stencils. http://www.tackleunderground.com/community/topic/23900-lurelayoutscom/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriftnOut Posted February 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2012 Thank you for the link defish! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriftnOut Posted February 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2012 Hey guys, thanks for all your help although I still have some slight overspray problems it has improved and shooting 3 colors looks good and my 4 color still needs some work I think with some practice it will get better so I see some light at the end of the tunnel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smalljaw Posted February 21, 2012 Report Share Posted February 21, 2012 Hey guys, thanks for all your help although I still have some slight overspray problems it has improved and shooting 3 colors looks good and my 4 color still needs some work I think with some practice it will get better so I see some light at the end of the tunnel. That is good, and I'm glad you got the three color working. Once you understand how the powder sprays it is amazing what you can do with it but it takes practice. Tweaking the air pressure will let you do different shading effects and allow you to really blend colors well. Good luck and let us know how everything is working for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriftnOut Posted February 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2012 Well I have another question, imagine that! I put on some UV clear after painting it rubbed off, so talked to some paint guys and theysaid ruff it up and take the shine off of it thenapply your clear. Did that too it was better still rubbed off. This is clear I purchased with my airbrush and paint it is not powder clear it is a brush on. So should I be using a powder clear they seem really shiney without a clear which is not really what im looking for I was just figuring on protecting the color I sprayed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smalljaw Posted February 24, 2012 Report Share Posted February 24, 2012 Well I have another question, imagine that! I put on some UV clear after painting it rubbed off, so talked to some paint guys and theysaid ruff it up and take the shine off of it thenapply your clear. Did that too it was better still rubbed off. This is clear I purchased with my airbrush and paint it is not powder clear it is a brush on. So should I be using a powder clear they seem really shiney without a clear which is not really what im looking for I was just figuring on protecting the color I sprayed. Even with a clear coat you will have spinnerblades chip, it is just the nature of it. The blade is tin and the paint doesn't have much to hold on to at the edge which is where you'll see the fisrt signs of wear. Try Devcon 2 ton 30 minute epoxy, a thin coat will protect the blade better than almost any other clear, the only thing is it will give the color on your blades a lot of depth and I may be mistaken but it sounds as if you are looking for a satin finish. Anyway, if you try the Devcon, it goes on with a brush but it is self leveling, just use a very thin coat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriftnOut Posted February 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2012 Ok, but the clear came off with my fingernail the next day, it peeled off like dead skin im pretty sure its not supposed to do that. I hadnt even fished the blade yet. I will give the devcon a try though thanks for the response. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smalljaw Posted February 25, 2012 Report Share Posted February 25, 2012 Ok, but the clear came off with my fingernail the next day, it peeled off like dead skin im pretty sure its not supposed to do that. I hadnt even fished the blade yet. I will give the devcon a try though thanks for the response. Some clear coats take a long time to cure and it looks like the stuff you used may take 2 days or so to set up. The Devcon 2 Ton 30 minute epoxy is tough, it dries really clear and adds depth to color but don't let the 30 minute name fool you, it has a very short working time and because of that I mix a little at a time. For example, if I was coating spinnerbait heads, I would mix up enough to around 7 to 10 heads, no more because by the time I am doing the last head the epoxy would already be starting to get thicker and hard to work with. Some people thin it out with denatured alcohol but I don't recommend it as it can cause bubbles but like I said, you need to do small batches at a time. The other thing is Devcon is almost self leveling, even if you see brush strokes on your work they will have disappeared by the time it cures and one last theing, the Devcon 5 minute is not the same stuff with a shorter working time, it has a tendency to yellow after a bit of time unlike the 30 minute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
