frithy Posted February 21, 2012 Report Share Posted February 21, 2012 G'day guys. just curiose to know how precise the heating and curing temps are for powder paint. I have just got a caravan (my spinnerbait factory) with a gas oven in it, so will I be able to get the temp somewhere in the vicinity of the required temp and use the same temp for my curing and simply go through and paint 50 with a base colour, then with a underbelly tone, then with a toptone, then with a lip by goin in and out of the oven set on the same heat for the whole process? Cheers Frithy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadman Posted February 21, 2012 Report Share Posted February 21, 2012 No need to bake(cure) each color separately. Put all your colors on at one time . Do all your baits that way, put on rack and bake all at one time. Yes you can use the same temp for all the color I do that all the time and never had any problems. However do a sample test piece first to make sure all your colors come out the way you want it. If you put purple on top of ylw chartreuse, when you bake them you will get green, which is not what you want. More info from others will surely follow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
defish Posted February 21, 2012 Report Share Posted February 21, 2012 An oven works fine for multicolor baits, but a heat gun is easier than shuffling the baits in and out of the oven. When I use an oven for this, I heat the lures to the recommended temp to do the base coat and then turn the temp down to the recommended "curing temp" and put the lures back in the oven to heat them to do the additional colors. You will probably have to shuffle them in and out several times to get all the colors on that you want, and sometimes more than once for just one of the secondary colors if the lure gets cool enough that the powder doesn't stick. Hope this makes sense. Good luck. Dan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smalljaw Posted February 21, 2012 Report Share Posted February 21, 2012 No need to bake(cure) each color separately. Put all your colors on at one time . Do all your baits that way, put on rack and bake all at one time. Yes you can use the same temp for all the color I do that all the time and never had any problems. However do a sample test piece first to make sure all your colors come out the way you want it. If you put purple on top of ylw chartreuse, when you bake them you will get green, which is not what you want. More info from others will surely follow. I'm with cadman 100%, you put on all your colors and then cure, in all the years I've done this I can tell you it doesn't make a difference to the toughness of the finish. You may encounter a combination that creates a slight color change but it is rare and if it does happen write down the color combo so you know the next time that those colors need to be done seperately. I also tried doing the different temps and times with different colors and compared the results to that of my 350 degrees for 20 minutes and found no difference, one wasn't any stronger or weaker than the other and the colors were the same. I mean no disrespect to defish when I say this but that system is ok if it works for him but is not only very time consuming but unnecessary, curing multicolors together is perfectly fine and works well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
defish Posted February 21, 2012 Report Share Posted February 21, 2012 ------. I mean no disrespect to defish when I say this but that system is ok if it works for him but is not only very time consuming but unnecessary, curing multicolors together is perfectly fine and works well. I agree Smalljaw, using an oven like I described is a SLOW method for applying multiple colors, but Frithy's post said that he planned to use an oven for his baits. I didn't make it clear that I'm not curing the baits between colors, just reheating them enough so that the other color powders bond to the bait. Slow going without a heat gun, but it works. The baits still have to be cured once all the colors have been applied. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smalljaw Posted February 21, 2012 Report Share Posted February 21, 2012 I agree Smalljaw, using an oven like I described is a SLOW method for applying multiple colors, but Frithy's post said that he planned to use an oven for his baits. I didn't make it clear that I'm not curing the baits between colors, just reheating them enough so that the other color powders bond to the bait. Slow going without a heat gun, but it works. The baits still have to be cured once all the colors have been applied. Ok, I see now said the blind man...lol. The way you worded your post it sounded like you were curing in between coats. I use a propane torch and then hang on a rack in the oven so doing multiple colors is simple, you apply the first color and then run through the torch again and do the next color. I apologize, because after I reread your post it is clear I misinterpreted, and for me that isn't hard to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frithy Posted February 22, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2012 Thanks guys, so pretty much the process I have posted is fine, only slow haha. I thought that I would do each colour separately because I will need extra airbrushes for multiple colours at a time whereas I can do a base coat (50) then change my colour bottle for the next colour. I thought this was the easier than switching bottles for each lure, or is there an easier way to do this? cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuzzyGrub Posted February 22, 2012 Report Share Posted February 22, 2012 (edited) FWIW: I recently did my 1st multi-colors. It was with jig heads that already had a cured base coat. Heating the jig with a heat gun and applied the colors with paint dusting from an artist brush. Final cure was in toaster oven. The base coat didn't appear any different from the additional heating and curing cycles. For multi-color, a gun or torch seems to be the best way to pre-heat. Using the oven rack gets to be a PITA quick. Putting the jig heads with paint back and forth, gives many opportunities to touch other jigs, racks, etc. With the heat gun it is easy to re-heat after one color to get that color to melt in, and pre-heat for next. Get all the colors on and then place in curing rack. Edited February 22, 2012 by FuzzyGrub Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...