ukey28 Posted March 12, 2012 Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 (edited) My spinner baits require wire form sizes much different than what is offered commercially. I think I could cut down on waste by buying coiled wire and cutting to the lengths I need before bending. My question is how does the wire come off the coil is it in a circle or curve? If I cut a piece 6 3/8" long how much arc is in it or would i get an arc of a circle with say a 12 inch diameter? Is there a quick way to straighten it? Any experience? Thanks, Frank Edited March 12, 2012 by ukey28 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ING Posted March 12, 2012 Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 From my experience I know that is not easy to straighten up coiled wire. You could try to stretch it by pulling and heating in same time for losing wires memory. I never tried it - just suggestion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basseducer Posted March 12, 2012 Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 Frank, I was getting the coils, cutting to length and straitening the wire. Yes there is a curve to it and a PITA if you are doing lots of them. I finally got a batch if straight wire forms, cut to length from Mustang Wire. Solved all my problems, down side, you have to buy 5000 pieces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FishAction Posted March 12, 2012 Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 Pre-straightened stainless steel wire is what you want to buy in coil wire form. The coil is large and loose, not on a roll. Hagen's has it by the pound rolls in different sizes. I ordered some of it for a friend of mine recently to make A-rigs and it worked great according to him. Charlie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukey28 Posted March 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 Thanks for the feedback guys. The coiled wire I was looking at was the 1/4 pound coils and 1 lb coils that LPO is selling. They claim its torsion straightened. Are we all discussing the same thing? FishAction, I think we are. ING and Basseducer, is that the wire you used? or were you talking about a different type of coiled wire. Just trying to be sure folks, i have a collection of useless material from purchasing without asking questions!!LOL Thanks for your input Frank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FishAction Posted March 12, 2012 Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 It's the only one I've looked at since I don't make wire products. I source products for stores and helped him out with this wire. Make sure you're getting stainless steel wire to make your forms. Straight pre-cut wire up to 16" is in their catalog, I think by the 100 ct. Have to get the catalog and refresh my memory to be sure. Charlie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayburnGuy Posted March 12, 2012 Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 I don't build spinnerbaits, but I wouldn't suggest heating the wire to straighten it. I could be wrong, but I think most spinnerbaits are built from a spring tempered wire. Heating a tempered wire can make it lose it's temper. If I'm wrong about using spring tempered wire for spinnerbaits then disregard the following. I've had fairly good luck straightening wire by clamping one end of it in a vice and pulling it as tight as I can with one hand. The other hand is used to rub a piece of 1/2" or 3/4" metal pipe up and down the length of the wire while it is pulled taut. Positioning the wire in the vice with the curvature of the wire facing up works best for me as it seems easiest to rub the pipe back and forth on the upper side. Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basseducer Posted March 12, 2012 Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 Here is a link to the stuff I was using. http://www.jannsnetcraft.com/ss-lure-making-wire/311666.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukey28 Posted March 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 I think that wire is softer than spinnerbait wire. Its used for leaders, Basseducer. I used it for sharks when I used to offshore fish. This is what I was talking about; http://lurepartsonline.com/Online-Store/Bulk-Wire/Stainless-Steel-Wire-coils.html I don't think it's the same alloy. The spinnerbait waire seems more rigid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROWINGADUBAY Posted March 14, 2012 Report Share Posted March 14, 2012 I use that wire for making spinnerbaits the wire does come off with a slight bend to it but not to bad for making bass style spinnerbaits I would also like to know how to straighten it . I seen this tool in the musky shop cataloghttp://www.muskyshop.com/modules/cart/products.php/nav_id/28/page/2/id/355/name/DuBroProSeriesWireStraightener not sure how it works but I would be interested in any feedback on this tool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pirkfan Posted March 15, 2012 Report Share Posted March 15, 2012 The coiled wire I was looking at was the 1/4 pound coils and 1 lb coils that LPO is selling. They claim its torsion straightened. Are we all discussing the same thing? Surprisingly, the coiled torsion straightened wire kind of wants to be straight. If you take a curved piece of it and just pull it through thumb and finger sort of pushing into the back of the curve with your thumb at the same time, it will straighten out. Might take a few passes, but it works. Hope this makes sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukey28 Posted March 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2012 (edited) Not really, but its positive!!! And a slight bend may lead me to something else. I sometimes wonder why we put so many hard bend corners on something we try to pull through a weedbed. I'll give it a try. Thanks for your input! Frank Edited March 15, 2012 by ukey28 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoungForge Posted March 15, 2012 Report Share Posted March 15, 2012 I highly recommend not using coiled wire because it is know where near stiff enough to use for spinners and it is impossible to straighten! Save your money don't buy any! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smalljaw Posted March 16, 2012 Report Share Posted March 16, 2012 Thanks for the feedback guys. The coiled wire I was looking at was the 1/4 pound coils and 1 lb coils that LPO is selling. They claim its torsion straightened. Are we all discussing the same thing? FishAction, I think we are. ING and Basseducer, is that the wire you used? or were you talking about a different type of coiled wire. Just trying to be sure folks, i have a collection of useless material from purchasing without asking questions!!LOL Thanks for your input Frank The torsion straighten wire sold in coils is exactly what you are looking for. If you look around you can find sizes like .029, .031, etc. I like .035 and the reason is it gives off a lot of vibration and is still a little durable, I used the .029 one time and while the vibration is extremely good, the durability is terrible, especially if you are catching smallmouth, I was getting an average of 2 fish and the bait was finished. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukey28 Posted March 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2012 Thanks for jumpin in Smalljaw. I'm using .035,.040, and .051, to transmit the sound of the blade to the brass body. I'm getting a different sound according to my kids who listen in the pool underwater! They can pick out the difference blindfolded. I used to use really light wire on my short arm drop baits and yes the vibe would bounce the rod ouot of your hand, but one or two good ones and I had a mangled mess! I feel your pain on that one. Great hook discussion. by the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffond Posted March 16, 2012 Report Share Posted March 16, 2012 So just to add my thoughts I just got into lure making myself and I am new to the forum... I just recently got some stainless steal wire I thru in an order on amazon.com it was .040 it is mirror polished or something of the sort... I just made some large versions of the kinds of spinner rigs you would use for mister twister set ups and made some french spinners with it...and a couple of prescott spinner setups... this is some really good stuff and with free shipping... I may have over paid I'm not sure but I like the little bit bigger stuff for things...I have a mold coming for spinner baits and intend on using same wire for that... I got 25ft of it with the first order... don't know if this helps but its just my thoughts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musky Glenn Posted March 19, 2012 Report Share Posted March 19, 2012 The best 1/4 oz. spinner baits I have used were made with .029 wire. I could get several fish out of one. Fishing ain't cheap! Musky Glenn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 The wire straintener from Dubro works with friction and has to be done a couple of times to get the desired results. There is a utube video on its use .I recently bought a bearing one from ebay and it is the cats meow. Insert one end and pull it out the other end straight. It was used and real cheap compared to new ones. Like 30 shipped. Not sure what it was used for but it works for me. As for wire I have had some that is so hard it breaks when bent. The American fishing wire seams to work for me for now. I think that one is the one most are talking about, also it is the easiest to find. Frank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ING Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 IMHO straightening coiled wire doesn't worth the efforts and time spend to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LedHed Posted September 2, 2012 Report Share Posted September 2, 2012 McMaster Carr - Stainless steel piano wire. All kinds of diameters & lengths. Various qtys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatman Posted September 5, 2012 Report Share Posted September 5, 2012 The coiled wire I was looking at was the 1/4 pound coils and 1 lb coils that LPO is selling. They claim its torsion straightened. Are we all discussing the same thing? I don't know what brand they're selling but I use the American Fishing wire brand that I get from Janns's Netcraft. Once you bend it it's fine. If you're really worried about it get your forms made by Mustang wire http://www.mustangwire.com/ If it's something they already have it's cheaper but if not it'll cost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toadfrog Posted September 5, 2012 Report Share Posted September 5, 2012 If you are mechanically inclined you might build something like this to straighten wires . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
