Cormorant Lures Posted March 20, 2012 Report Share Posted March 20, 2012 Anyone try it and have comments and experience with it?!? I just bought my first 5 gallons to try... Not worried about it, just looking for some input... Thanks!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ute Posted March 20, 2012 Report Share Posted March 20, 2012 I will interested in hearing your experience. I am looking at a new Ring Worm mold, and I am pretty sure it will need the easy flow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cormorant Lures Posted March 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2012 Alright, so I poured my first batch of baits with the "EZ Flow" today... Actually, this is my first experience with Lureworks Plastic all together... Last night, I took the (2) 2.5 gallon containers of plastic, shook the hell outta them, and dumped them into a five gallon bucket... On the bottoms of the 2.5 gallon containers, I did not notice any, if VERY LITTLE residue after pouring into the 5 gallon bucket... I then took out the mixer and mixed the plastic VERY thoroughly... After mixing, I poured the "EZ Flow" into a 5 gallon container I had laying around from the last time I used M-F Plastic... This morning I woke up and got my plastic mixing in my presto pot as well as start the old coffee pot... I treated this plastic just like I have will all the other plastics I have used before... Same amount of softener, salt, etc.... The very first thing I noticed is that this plastic has the least amount of odor/smell out of all the plastics I have used so far (so thats a BIG plus!)... It also heats up nice and fast (also a BIG plus!)... As far as microbubbles, didn't seem to be a problem at all... As my plastic reached temperature, I injected my first sets of baits... This plastic drew up into my injector nice and smooth... It was very easy to draw from the pot, and very easy to inject into the molds... I waited for my baits to cool and then I demolded my first set... They seemed softer than any of my other previous baits I have ever demolded... Slightly tacky, but not to bad... Here is where my experience ends, and my questions begin... For all the people on the forum who would like to call themselves "Lureworks Plastisol" experts... Question #1: Do you have to re-mix, shake, stir, etc. the container of raw plastic each and every time you pour?!? I gave the container of plastic a couple quick rocks back and forth before drawing plastic from the container... I figured since I just mixed the hell out of it the night before, that's all it should need... Question #2: I used the same amount of softener with this plastic that I have used with every plastic I have tried before... It seems as though the baits were softer when demolded than previous baits... I would imagine that eventhough I might have needed to cut down on the softener, the 12 - 24 hour cure time will help to eliminate the slight tackiness and help to harden them a little?!? Any other tips will be greatly appreciated!!! Thanks!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHK Posted March 28, 2012 Report Share Posted March 28, 2012 let them sit about 2 weeks and judge them then. i have found it takes about that long to fully cure the baits. i let baits set up a minimum 72 hrs before bagging. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gone2long Posted March 28, 2012 Report Share Posted March 28, 2012 Question, I thought that formula was for hand pouring and for small appendages why inject? Just trying something different? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cormorant Lures Posted March 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2012 According to Spike It's website, it is for hand-pouring and injecting baits with tails and small appendages... Today I was injecting craws and hogs, both with small appendages and tails... Maybe I should of just went with the standard pourasol?!? SHK, is 2 weeks a typo?!? LOL!!! You really have to wait that long for the baits to fully cure?!? 72 hours before bagging too?!? I usually bag after 24 hours, is 72 hours a standard for Lureworks plastic or bagging baits in general?!? I have tried every brand of plastic imaginable... Lureworks is the last brand I have tried, so far for me the positives totally out-weigh the negatives!!! Was my mistake buying the "EZ Flow"?!? Is this plastic not capable for general injection?!? Thanks!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gone2long Posted March 28, 2012 Report Share Posted March 28, 2012 No, cool I just thought you had a special reason but I see your point trying something different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHK Posted March 28, 2012 Report Share Posted March 28, 2012 nope it is not a typo. i wait 72 hrs as i have found over the last few years that if i bag after 24 hrs that the baits can still cure in the bag in the shape they are laying. i have found that i can greatly reduce this if i wait 72 hrs before bagging. myself and another member have had a few discussions about this and we both have found 2 weeks is the general time it takes plastisol to cure completely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cormorant Lures Posted March 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2012 SHK and Mr. Bilky, are either one of you experienced or dedicated Lureworks plastic users?!? I am wondering what the major differences are between the regular pourasol and the EZ Flow... Using my normal ratio of salt and softener, my baits came out much softer than normal... I do not mind the consistency, but I am afraid of losing to much durability... I thought by now that Carolina Mike might kick in some of his knowledge on Lureworks plastic... Now that I have 5 gallons of EZ Flow, I am hoping I did not flush my money down the drain... Maybe the regular soft pourasol is better suited for my needs, or I am completely over-reacting... I thought of trying a batch tomorrow without softener what-so-ever and seeing what the differences are in consistency... I am hoping that the baits will harden up a little bit... What do you think?!? Thanks!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crappieday Posted March 28, 2012 Report Share Posted March 28, 2012 the ez flow is a very soft plastic to begin with.thats why its for the difficult molds and hand pours, When I talked with them they said it also had a lower melting point. I was going to use it for dipping but needed a harder plastic so I went with pourasol. Not as clear as CC plastic but not being able to buy bulk in the CC I went back to pourasol.and have been very happy with it. They are all different, ya just got a get what works for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHK Posted March 28, 2012 Report Share Posted March 28, 2012 i tried it but use calhoun. all you have to do is adjust the softener to plastic ratio, yes you are over reacting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cormorant Lures Posted March 29, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2012 Thank you! I will be willing to bet that I could use no softener at all and get a much better consistency... That's my plan for tomorrow... Otherwise I do like the plastic... Probably try to shoot it at a cooler temperature to see how it affects the injection process... I will try to calm down now... Deep breaths, deep breaths... LOL!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHK Posted March 29, 2012 Report Share Posted March 29, 2012 LOL, that is the attitude LOL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Posted March 29, 2012 Report Share Posted March 29, 2012 To answer you question of mixing every time you might but You have to make the decision. Look at the bottom of the jug and see if there is some settling. If there is then mix it till it is gone. On the compounds of plastic the softer ones require less mixing than the harder ones. I use the injectasol but have used pourasol but saw no real differance. In my opinion the plastic is like on the softer side compared to MF. I use med hard spike it to be like regular MF. The med soft is a little harder than MF super soft. On the med hard I set the jugs on the end oposite the cap so when it settles I can hit the part that settles and break it up ti get it mixed in. It is harder to hit the bottom as it is thicker. Frank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
