fishingwithbrady Posted April 23, 2012 Report Share Posted April 23, 2012 I am wanting to start painting my own bait's and I have no idea where to start...... Can I please get some advice on what type of Airbrush Is needed and where the best place is to buy my needed material's. (paint,lure's,ect) I need it all. Thank You and God Bless! Brady Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdL Posted April 23, 2012 Report Share Posted April 23, 2012 Start out by using the search function on this forum and also look at the How-to-section. Many recommendations and tips for airbrushes and paints are already posted to get you started. Also go online and search for airbrush forums. An airbrush is simple in concept and can be mastered but it will take practice, practice and more practice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedyarb Posted April 23, 2012 Report Share Posted April 23, 2012 Cheap airbrush at hrborfreight for 20$. Mediocre brush at hobby lobby, iawata Neo for 40$. Paint createx or folk art at Walmart! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracy G Posted April 23, 2012 Report Share Posted April 23, 2012 (edited) Hope I'm not doing a no no here but I got mine off of amazon.com compressor and three cheapo airbrushes for a $104. And I use folk art paint from wally world. Edited April 23, 2012 by jon boatin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted April 23, 2012 Report Share Posted April 23, 2012 I'd recommend you start with Createx paints, because they are true air brush paints, and will give you less problems starting out. Thin the paint with their 4011 reducer to the consistency of milk, and you should be fine. Spray thin coats, heat set/dry between each coat with a hair dryer, and take your time. Practice air brush strokes on a piece of white paper or cardboard, so you get the feel of the trigger and paint controls. Clean your brush often, and thoroughly. Read as much as you can here, using the search feature. Go online to a place like Coast Air Brush and check out some of their free instructional videos. Go to Youtube and check out air brush videos. Have fun! That's an order!!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishingwithbrady Posted April 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 24, 2012 Thank's for the advice! Please keep it coming! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Prager Posted April 24, 2012 Report Share Posted April 24, 2012 I think the best advise you already have and that's to use the search engine. Every question you might have has been answered and is sitting there for the taking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishingwithbrady Posted April 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 25, 2012 O.K. I have been searching and the more I search the more confused I get on one subject...... What is the best top or hard coat to use to cover createx colors? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Prager Posted April 25, 2012 Report Share Posted April 25, 2012 I think it is a matter of preference. I paint plastic blanks and use Bob Smith 30 Minute Slow Cure Epoxy which can be bought at local hobby shops. It is very similar to Devcon 2 Ton (D2T) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted April 25, 2012 Report Share Posted April 25, 2012 It really depends on what material you're painting over, and what you need the top coat to do. If you're painting over wood, where water intrusion is big concern, you want to look at something like epoxy or Dick Nite's original urethane. I've use epoxy, and I know it works. I haven't used the original Dick Nite's urethane, but others here swear by it (and sometime at it). Hahaha If you're painting over plastic, resin, or PVC, where water isn't a threat to the lure, you can use a water borne urethane because you're only trying to protect the paint scheme from the water. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishingwithbrady Posted April 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 25, 2012 I think it is a matter of preference. I paint plastic blanks and use Bob Smith 30 Minute Slow Cure Epoxy which can be bought at local hobby shops. It is very similar to Devcon 2 Ton (D2T) Thank You! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluetickhound Posted April 26, 2012 Report Share Posted April 26, 2012 (edited) When I was doing motorcycle work I used Iwata airbrushes, specifically the HP-C. I got out of it a few years ago and sold all my equipment, stupidly....I've always had good luck with 'em and plant to use them in my luremaking.... Which actually started yesterday... I'm nowhere NEAR ready to paint yet! Edited April 26, 2012 by bluetickhound 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishingwithbrady Posted April 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 26, 2012 It really depends on what material you're painting over, and what you need the top coat to do. If you're painting over wood, where water intrusion is big concern, you want to look at something like epoxy or Dick Nite's original urethane. I've use epoxy, and I know it works. I haven't used the original Dick Nite's urethane, but others here swear by it (and sometime at it). Hahaha If you're painting over plastic, resin, or PVC, where water isn't a threat to the lure, you can use a water borne urethane because you're only trying to protect the paint scheme from the water. Thank's, Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishingwithbrady Posted April 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 26, 2012 Can I spray the epoxy or do I dip it? Also what is the best way to hold a bait to paint it? I have ordered a complete studio 6 brushes and compressor for 200bucks. I'm guessing it will get me started. I also ordered createx paint's. And a small hobby booth. Thank's, Brady Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracy G Posted April 26, 2012 Report Share Posted April 26, 2012 Can I spray the epoxy or do I dip it? Also what is the best way to hold a bait to paint it? I have ordered a complete studio 6 brushes and compressor for 200bucks. I'm guessing it will get me started. I also ordered createx paint's. And a small hobby booth. Thank's, Brady You brush on the epoxy (I use one of the wife's eye shadow brushes). I mix enough to do two baits at a time in the bottom of an aluminum can, add about 3 or 4 drops of denatured alcohol and breath over it (this helps get rid of bubbles). Then brush it on making sure that the brush touches every bit of the paint and load the brush often. You will have to turn the bait a few times while the epoxy cures ( I usually turn mine about 2 - 3 times). I hope that this helps you out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracy G Posted April 26, 2012 Report Share Posted April 26, 2012 What part of Arkansas are you in? I live in Rison, it's 23 miles south of Pine Bluff. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishingwithbrady Posted April 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 26, 2012 What part of Arkansas are you in? I live in Rison, it's 23 miles south of Pine Bluff. I live in the metropolis of Kirby on Lake Greeson... Thank's for the help! Brady Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowhunter Posted April 26, 2012 Report Share Posted April 26, 2012 Get a $200 Iwata Micron then use 5 minute devcon to spray topcoat. Now obviously you have not been diving in too deep for information. IMHO 6 cheep airbrushes will be the ultimate payback for lack of research! DO NOT attempt to spray Devcon, this has just been a test. Seriously, a solid lower end dual action AB would get you going in the right direction. There are threads here with tons of useful information, you'll find what's best for your application. Douglas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted April 26, 2012 Report Share Posted April 26, 2012 Douglas, Hahaha...you are so funny. You should put that in the recipe book under "Recipe for $200 paperweight"! Brady, Do not, I repeat, do not use 5 min epoxy for your building or top coat. It is not waterproof, only water resistant, so it will fail, and it sets up too quickly. I don't know anyone who sprays epoxy successfully. I know there are some very accomplished builders here, so someone probably does, but it's no designed to spray or dip. Brush it on with a thin, even coat, and use a lure turner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishingwithbrady Posted April 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 26, 2012 Get a $200 Iwata Micron then use 5 minute devcon to spray topcoat. Now obviously you have not been diving in too deep for information. IMHO 6 cheep airbrushes will be the ultimate payback for lack of research! DO NOT attempt to spray Devcon, this has just been a test. Seriously, a solid lower end dual action AB would get you going in the right direction. There are threads here with tons of useful information, you'll find what's best for your application. Douglas Douglas, are you one of the political advisers that our government uses? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishingwithbrady Posted April 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 26, 2012 Douglas, Hahaha...you are so funny. You should put that in the recipe book under "Recipe for $200 paperweight"! Brady, Do not, I repeat, do not use 5 min epoxy for your building or top coat. It is not waterproof, only water resistant, so it will fail, and it sets up too quickly. I don't know anyone who sprays epoxy successfully. I know there are some very accomplished builders here, so someone probably does, but it's no designed to spray or dip. Brush it on with a thin, even coat, and use a lure turner. Thank's Mark! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdL Posted April 26, 2012 Report Share Posted April 26, 2012 On buying epoxy. Check out packaging to make sure 1 it says waterproof not water resistant. 2 it says dries clear. Some epoxies dries amber to yellow so it will color shift you baits. Ok if that's what you want but if you want white it won't be pure white Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishingwithbrady Posted April 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 26, 2012 On buying epoxy. Check out packaging to make sure 1 it says waterproof not water resistant. 2 it says dries clear. Some epoxies dries amber to yellow so it will color shift you baits. Ok if that's what you want but if you want white it won't be pure white Thank's Ed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishingwithbrady Posted April 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 26, 2012 I'm vegging out on youtube! Learning lot's of trick's helpful info. I had forgot youtube existed, Thank's for the reminder! , Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdL Posted April 26, 2012 Report Share Posted April 26, 2012 Hey one other tip. Don't spend all your time on internet looking up info. Not that it is not a good thing to do Start practicing what you learn. To me it sort of like when you first learn to ride a bicycle. Yeah you can watch videos and read up on all kinds of bicycles, which ones are better than others, which ones work better for riding conditions. But if you've never rode one, you will be a little wobbly even with training wheels the first time. So go for it and keep the first lures you make and then compare it with baits you make some time later. You will be amazed as the progress. As you make baits you will hone in on specific questions and then the experience folks can really help you with specifics. Also learn to take photos and post with any questions about specific issue that you run into. It will certainly help troubleshooting. Also it doesn't hurt to brag about you accomplishments. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
