J lure Posted July 2, 2012 Report Share Posted July 2, 2012 Hey guy I read this article and got to thinking. What would happen if we mix plastisol and crystal gel polymer together. I believe that crystal gel polymer is or close to the same stuff that baby diapers are filled with. http://www.texs.com/magazine/archive_detail.php?Key=texas-bass-fishing&ArticleID=58 Any thoughts? Just trying to think outside of the box. I am the same guy that thought adding mineral oil to the plastic would do something similar, so take it easy on me. -Jason- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rixon529 Posted July 3, 2012 Report Share Posted July 3, 2012 (edited) I read this article and got to thinking. What would happen if we mix plastisol and crystal gel polymer together. I believe that crystal gel polymer is or close to the same stuff that baby diapers are filled with. You're right. Here's a quote: Polymer crystals are one of those special items that are almost magical. Polymer crystals gel very similar to a gelatin dessert. One of their major uses is by the disposable diaper manufacturers, where they are referred to as super absorbent polymers. The polymers allow for thinner and lighter disposable diapers. I checked a couple craft store sites on line (ACMoore, Hobby Lobby) and they have water gel crystals (aka Water Balz, etc) available on the cheap. Since they are designed to absorb water, would they make your bait swell up when you use it? The article you cited says, Quote 'You can't mix the Cyber-Flexxx baits with traditional soft-plastic lures,' offered Murski. 'Doing so will cause a chemical reaction that will deform both baits. And it's also not a good idea to put Cyber-Flexxx baits in a plastic lure tray that has previously held standard soft plastic baits. Unquote Following is from a Strike King web page about 3X Soft Plastics. Quote Note: Do not mix with or store in the same bag with regular soft plastic baits because the two materials will dissolve when stored together. Unquote Their warning is for cured lures... I gotta wonder what type of "chemical reaction" would happen with 300+ degree plastisol. Sounds interesting. Thanks. Rick Edited July 3, 2012 by rixon529 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J lure Posted July 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2012 I'll Let you know if I receive any letter from strike king or z man fishing if that happens, I'll know I cracked the code! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maurizio Posted July 3, 2012 Report Share Posted July 3, 2012 very interesting idea! I like it. I will take a closer look too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Painter1 Posted July 4, 2012 Report Share Posted July 4, 2012 That article is 9 years old? Just wondering what happened to the product since I never heard of it or saw it in the tackle shop. The Tablerock bass are loving a bait that will float a 4/0 hook but in using micro-bubbles I am struggling with colors and softness. A new compound that would float a heavy hook would be great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toadfrog Posted July 4, 2012 Report Share Posted July 4, 2012 I think that is the same stuff you buy at the farm and garden . Its a crystal you soak in water . Swells something like 75% . But will as the liquid evaporates it shrinks until more liquid hits it . Ever hear of a kids toy called Grow A Monster . Same generic stuff drop the critter in a jar of water 1/2 inch critter grows to a 3'' critter . I think I'll just watch to see how this turns out . Put a fire extinguisher next to the microwave . LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J lure Posted July 4, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2012 Yea it swells when it interacts with H2O, but our plastic is not H2O or water based....... So the same properties make it swell/grown with the interaction with water, should make the plastic create a super stretching bond between the plastic molecules.. At least it sounds good in theroy..? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...