TroutStlkr Posted August 7, 2012 Report Share Posted August 7, 2012 (edited) Hello, I'm new to the forum and also to the hobby of molding soft baits. Actually still in the research phase of the latter (which is how I cam across this site). This past year, I just began assembling my own inline spinners and have enjoyed that and had some success on the water with them too (not to mention, donating about 4 to the snags sets me back about the same as one purchased from the local sporting goods store). Now, I'm looking to expand into molding my own soft baits. There is a fair amount of information out there to help me get started. However, the commercial soft baits that I've had to most confidence and success with has been gulp alive. I carry in my pack with me on the stream a plano liquid bait container stocked full of pinched crawlers and gulp trout worms and it's the only thing that has been able to produce as consistently as actual live garden hackle ( including powerbait and many other soft plastic trout worms that I've tried ) I also like that the material is biodegradable and digestible for fish. I was wondering if there is a molding material available or a recipe for creating something similar? I realize that a lot of R & D went into creating Gulp and that is probably all under lock and key, so the answer may be no, but I thought this would be the place to ask to make sure. If not, does anybody have any experience with any of the other plastics marketed as biodegradable and more eco friendly? Any info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Edited August 7, 2012 by TroutStlkr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tupong Posted August 8, 2012 Report Share Posted August 8, 2012 Have a look at this it may help http://green-plastics.net/discussion/54-student/140-qaa-can-i-make-bioplastic-fishing-lures regards mick 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted August 8, 2012 Report Share Posted August 8, 2012 That's a neat site! Very interesting. Thanks for sharing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroutStlkr Posted August 8, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 8, 2012 Have a look at this it may help http://green-plastic...c-fishing-lures regards mick Bookmarked for future use. Has anybody tried this? I guess I was hoping that maybe one of the companies producing the commercial plastics for pouring had developed a formula similar to some of the biodegradable and digestible products that have come to market recently, but this recipe seems worth a try. Like I said, I'm a ways off yet from actually making baits, but if I do end up tinkering with this, I 'll be sure and share the results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J lure Posted August 8, 2012 Report Share Posted August 8, 2012 Nice link. Glad to see some one else is out there with Eco concerns! I had posted this same topic about a year ago with a few responses but no luck. If you search through the forums there are some other similar topics that may help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J lure Posted August 8, 2012 Report Share Posted August 8, 2012 Here is another link that I have an have more once I find them. http://archives.in-fisherman.com/content/biodegradables-bass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J lure Posted August 8, 2012 Report Share Posted August 8, 2012 Here is another good article about bio baits. http://www.angling2020.ca/images/stories/catalogues/infs-090022-biodeg.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJR Posted August 8, 2012 Report Share Posted August 8, 2012 Have a look at this it may help http://green-plastic...c-fishing-lures regards mick That approach might be an ideal alternative for a hobbyist like myself. Cheap materials that are readily available locally, lacking the health risks of plastisol, and safer for the environment. I am going to do some experimenting with it and will report the results. Thanks for the sharing the link. Ron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rixon529 Posted August 8, 2012 Report Share Posted August 8, 2012 (edited) TroutStlkr: This was being actively explored and experimented with last year by Vodkaman and tbrinlee. The thread kinda died out in June 2011. Read this thread: http://www.tackleund...-powder-binder/ And this one: http://www.tackleund...etalflake-worm/ Hey, Vodkaman / tbrinlee! Anything else you care to share on this? Rick Edited August 8, 2012 by rixon529 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroutStlkr Posted August 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 9, 2012 TroutStlkr: This was being actively explored and experimented with last year by Vodkaman and tbrinlee. The thread kinda died out in June 2011. Read this thread: http://www.tackleund...-powder-binder/ And this one: http://www.tackleund...etalflake-worm/ Hey, Vodkaman / tbrinlee! Anything else you care to share on this? Rick Based on those threads, sounds like continued water absorption would be a problem with the gelatin recipe linked earlier in this thread. Sink rate might also be an issue. I'd think with all the biodegradable baits hitting the market, that a similar material would become commercially available for those that mold their own baits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodkaman Posted August 14, 2012 Report Share Posted August 14, 2012 The idea died but is not forgotten. It will be revisited one day. Dave 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroutStlkr Posted August 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 27, 2012 That approach might be an ideal alternative for a hobbyist like myself. Cheap materials that are readily available locally, lacking the health risks of plastisol, and safer for the environment. I am going to do some experimenting with it and will report the results. Thanks for the sharing the link. Ron Just wondering if you'd had a chance to experiment yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJR Posted August 27, 2012 Report Share Posted August 27, 2012 Just wondering if you'd had a chance to experiment yet? I haven't had the time to try it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROWINGADUBAY Posted September 1, 2012 Report Share Posted September 1, 2012 Has anyone tried the lory kay product offered from Hagens I would think you could use the gulp recharge liquid instead of water to mix and mold Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroutStlkr Posted September 8, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2012 Has anyone tried the lory kay product offered from Hagens I would think you could use the gulp recharge liquid instead of water to mix and mold Thanks. That might be worth a try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroutStlkr Posted September 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2012 Has anyone tried the lory kay product offered from Hagens I would think you could use the gulp recharge liquid instead of water to mix and mold I contacted Hagens and they said that they no longer get the Lori Kay material and have switched back to a regular plastisol. Don't know where else to get the material or if it is still in production. Given the lack of reviews and that I haven't really been able to find anything from anybody that has used it extensively, I'm guessing it didn't go over that well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rixon529 Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 I contacted Hagens and they said that they no longer get the Lori Kay material and have switched back to a regular plastisol. Don't know where else to get the material or if it is still in production. Given the lack of reviews and that I haven't really been able to find anything from anybody that has used it extensively, I'm guessing it didn't go over that well. I tried, but apparently the Lorie Kay Bait website is no longer functional. Try: http://www.unexcelledfishing.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=6&Itemid=12&c=yellow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FishingLegacy Posted March 9, 2022 Report Share Posted March 9, 2022 On 8/9/2012 at 6:12 PM, TroutStlkr said: Based on those threads, sounds like continued water absorption would be a problem with the gelatin recipe linked earlier in this thread. Sink rate might also be an issue. I'd think with all the biodegradable baits hitting the market, that a similar material would become commercially available for those that mold their own baits. I just added a post, about the bioplastic that I've been working on, to the thread mentioned above. Anyone else up for joining me in continued exploration of homemade bioplastic baits? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FishingLegacy Posted March 9, 2022 Report Share Posted March 9, 2022 On 8/14/2012 at 7:33 AM, Vodkaman said: The idea died but is not forgotten. It will be revisited one day. Dave The day has arrived! Any interest still? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FishingLegacy Posted March 9, 2022 Report Share Posted March 9, 2022 On 8/27/2012 at 12:37 PM, TroutStlkr said: Just wondering if you'd had a chance to experiment yet? Sharing in your concern about health risks, I've been experimenting with food safe ingredients. There has to be a natural way to produce flexible, bioplastic baits. I'm on mission to do it, but added knowledge is needed. Interested in picking up the conversation and exploration? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
