Saltfisher Posted September 23, 2012 Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 Talking to a buddy of mine, and trying to figure out what the main ingrediant is in these scents like the ones bears sells. Also how they get the "craw" scent. Would like to try and make my own. Its probably something very simple. Anyone have any ideas? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
412BaitCo Posted September 23, 2012 Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 Generally it's just putting any concentrated scent into an oil. Anise oil craw oil fish oil so on. It has to be oil based or it won't last on the bait. You can cook any scent into an oil then strain out the mess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saltfisher Posted September 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 So the base product is vegtable, or olive oil? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finesse1331 Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 I just did a bunch of research on this and I actually made some garlic scent that is super strong. I got an old jelly jar and filled it with vegetable oil,then I got some garlic cloves and cut them up. I did bake the cloves at 250 degrees for about 10 minutes cause raw garlic and certain elements can produce botchulism(sp). After letting it sit in a jar for 2 weeks I got a oil that is super potent with a garlic smell, I can add it to my plastic before pouring or put some in a spray bottle and spray it on my lure at the lake.I will be trying a few other scents,craw,coffee and Anise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassinfool Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 Botulism isn't something you want to tangle with, if left untreated long enough it is more than enough to kill you. It's less common with garlic and other vegetables like it but more common on cantaloupe, lettuce and some squash varieties. I have been thinking about making some of my own scents recently, will probably try garlic and coffee first before trying crawfish or fish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basseducer Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 Let us know about shelf life, I think the vegetable oil will go rancid on you. Worm oil is a petrolium base. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdL Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 Let see- put something in an oil and cook it and you'll have a great scent. OK Put in a dollar bill and you bait will smell like money. Put in a turd and you bait will stink. Got it. Never mind I'll stick with store bought scents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finesse1331 Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 Edl this isn't for everyone, I make my own plastics and I like to experiment with different things, that's what I do. I have store bought scents that smell exactly like what I made. I don't mind experimenting with different scents, I will be trying out coffee and a few others pretty soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saltfisher Posted September 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 Plus you can make it in bulk. What it cost you in a store, you could probably make 10x the amount for the same price. I like saving money, and playing at the same time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdL Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 Don't get me wrong. I am of the ilk to try to make thinkgs myself when I can. But I am already pushing the limits with the war department on my tackle making and rod wrapping so I'm doing OK in the garage but not cooking on the stove. I say it's best to experiment and be careful not to do any harm to yourself first or anyone else standing nearby. That how I lean. I was just doing a brain *art out loud with the money deal. The coffee idea is a great one though. Instead of throwing out the grounds just soak some plastics in it or make some concentrate with oil to add as scent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finesse1331 Posted September 25, 2012 Report Share Posted September 25, 2012 I have come up with an idea for making a coffee scent that I'm gonna try here in the next day or so.I have also done some tinkering with making a garlic paste that I can smear on my jigs and should last a long time or at least a few cast before it comes off. The paste I'm making is pretty easy but I need to tweak it a little but the garlic scent is super potent, I don't worry about vampires in my house. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billwv68 Posted September 25, 2012 Report Share Posted September 25, 2012 I have my own anise scent for years and it works and last forever. Get a bottle of Mineral oil and a small bottle of anise they use to make candy. Just simply mix it together a half pint to one jar of Anise. It works and if you miss the fish you know you will be even with him because it will most likely give him the "runs"......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayhorse Posted September 25, 2012 Report Share Posted September 25, 2012 I made the garlic scent too, it is powerful but very unstable, easily degrades over time. Olive oil work better than canola or corn oil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finesse1331 Posted September 25, 2012 Report Share Posted September 25, 2012 I heard your not supposed to use mineral oil on plastics because it destroys the plastic, not sure if this only applies to freshly made plastics or not. I think there are a few topics on here about it and how it affects the plastic. I used vegetable oil for my scent but I will be trying olive oil soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSC Posted September 25, 2012 Report Share Posted September 25, 2012 Mineral oil over a period of time will shrink and harden the plastisol ... I think using regular worm oil is the best alternative Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Painter1 Posted September 25, 2012 Report Share Posted September 25, 2012 Mineral oil over a period of time will shrink and harden the plastisol ... I think using regular worm oil is the best alternative. What is "regular worm oil" made from if not vegetable or mineral oil? Light hydraulic oil maybe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saltfisher Posted September 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 25, 2012 I wonder that too. It is either some sort of oil you can buy at the store, or the company that sells it is mixing stuff to get there own. More then likely it's sonething you can pick up at a store. Just don't know what... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Prager Posted September 25, 2012 Report Share Posted September 25, 2012 worm oil is DINP. Last I bought some Bear's was the least expensive by the gallon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bass-Boys Posted September 26, 2012 Report Share Posted September 26, 2012 is DINP also a softner ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carolinamike Posted September 26, 2012 Report Share Posted September 26, 2012 DINP is actually a type of plastisizer, so yes it is a softner when added to the plastisol before cooking. It makes a great medium for delivering scent to plastic baits, the baits will actually absorb DINP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uma62 Posted September 26, 2012 Report Share Posted September 26, 2012 I have been making scents out of olive oil.I use a light olive oil. It is not as green as regular olive oil.It is mostly clear.I have a coffee and some garlic scents .They have been sitting out for almost 6 months or longer here in Central Florida.In the heat.So far nothing has gone bad.I have also had some worms sitting out and soaking in it for about the same time.And they are still as good as the day I poured them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bass-Boys Posted September 26, 2012 Report Share Posted September 26, 2012 DINP is actually a type of plastisizer, so yes it is a softner when added to the plastisol before cooking. It makes a great medium for delivering scent to plastic baits, the baits will actually absorb DINP. thanks mike. Jeff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSC Posted September 26, 2012 Report Share Posted September 26, 2012 From Painter "What is "regular worm oil" made from if not vegetable or mineral oil? Light hydraulic oil maybe? " I belive the other guys got it right ..."DINP" Good for deluting concentrated colors as well ... need to keep at least a quart on hand if for nothing else than "Slicking Up" baits to get in a bag easier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Painter1 Posted September 28, 2012 Report Share Posted September 28, 2012 I found this technical information by googling: "Di-isononyl phthalate (DINP) is a commonly used plasticiser, 95 per cent of which is used in PVC applications. More than half of the DINP used in non-PVC applications involves polymer related-uses (e.g. rubbers). The remaining DINP is used in inks and pigments, adhesives, sealants, paints and lacquers and lubricants. DINP is a mixture of isomers that have alkyl chains from 8 to 10 carbons long, but the largest portion of the mixture has chains composed of 9-carbons. There are two different substances attributed to the names 1,2-Benzenedicarboxylic acid, di-C8-10-branched alkyl esters, C9-rich or di-“isononyl” phthalate (DINP). DINP 1 (CAS 68515-48-0) is manufactured by the “Polygas” process whereas DINP 2 (CAS 28553-12-0) is n-butene based. Under the EU risk assessment these substances have been considered equivalent from a health and environmental perspective, and as such a single EU risk assessment has been conducted for DINP." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...