MonteSS Posted October 9, 2012 Report Share Posted October 9, 2012 http://www.caneycreekmolds.com/HD-Sinking-Additive_p_386.html Anyone tried this stuff? Its a liquid additive. Supposedly will make bait sink like salt without losing durability or softness. I heard it may actually increase durability. I ordered some and will report back soon. ....Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bass-Boys Posted October 9, 2012 Report Share Posted October 9, 2012 I have not, but will be waiting on your comments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBehr Posted October 12, 2012 Report Share Posted October 12, 2012 I was in the test group...and really liked it. It really (really!) does make the baits sink and I swear they seem tougher (hard to tear). I'm planning to make a lot of my wacky baits with it. The action did not seem to noticeably suffer on my Fry and Senko style baits. I'm wondering what would happen when I pour the head in sinking...and the tail in floating...it's on the "to do" list this winter. No need to peg a sinker!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bass-Boys Posted October 12, 2012 Report Share Posted October 12, 2012 sweet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonteSS Posted October 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2012 So I got my order of the sinking additive. These are my non-biased personal results. I used medium plastic (not CCM brand) I use a Del's 5.25 stick mold (identical to a real Senko) This is my normal Senko recipe I use which is very close to the real deal in weight, sink rate, softness, and a little better durability. Baits turn white opaque from the salt. If I use pickling salt the baits are more clear and colors and glitter look better, but durability suffers. 4 oz plastic 2 heaping tablespoon powdered salt 1 tablespoon softener ---------------------------------------------------------------- Using the HD sinking additive I used.... 4 oz plastic 2 level tablespoon sinking additive. Baits are fairly cloudy and opaque. Baits are Very soft. Baits are very durable (even more durable than medium plastic with no additives). Weight and sink rate are same as the real Senko. ------------------------------------------------------------------ I went to the Pharmacist and he weighed a few baits for me Real Senko 10.86g Pickling salt 11.51g powdered salt 10.80g HDS 11.15g In conclusion I am very happy with the results. For my personal baits the price is not a big deal. For resale adding $.50-$1.00 to a pack should cover it. I fished a couple hours today and caught 5 fish. I use an o-ring and bait looked fine and can still catch numerous more fish. Sink rate was right on and the wiggle looked awesome ....Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bass-Boys Posted October 14, 2012 Report Share Posted October 14, 2012 sounds great. so are you saying its apx. .10 cents per worm ????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonteSS Posted October 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2012 Asuming 4 tbs per 8 oz plastic will make the sink rate same as a Senko, and a 8 oz bottle of this stuff = ~16 tbsp, then the one pound bottle would do about four cups of plastic. That means about $2 of additive per cup of plastic. Figure 20 baits per 4 oz plastic so the additive cost about $.50 fot a bag of 10 baits. If demand is there I bet it could come in larger containers and price may drop. I think the customer would glady pay more once they tried the baits. ....Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBehr Posted October 26, 2012 Report Share Posted October 26, 2012 So far...8 largemouth and 2 smallmouth from ONE wacky rigged fry bait using the additive...and I still have the bait on! I personally don't see any difference in action....from a flexibility standpoint...but since the ends are weighted by the additive...you get the same effect as using a finishing nail. The ends really flap now! It is really nice to be able to use only a hook...no weighted wacky hook...and no fragile bait....and no salt rusting all my hooks ! (Try leaving a salted bait on the hook over 2 trips!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonteSS Posted October 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2012 Ya. I was up to four trips out and over 20 bass on the same stick. Still would be using it if I didnt get broke off on a dock. ....Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t-billy Posted November 19, 2012 Report Share Posted November 19, 2012 I'm really pleased with this stuff as well. It suspends in the plastic WAY better than even finely ground salt. No need for constant stirring. Plastic with HD additive pours much smoother than salted plastic. My baits come out soft and shiny just like baits with no additive or salt. It does make baits opaque like fine salt. Aside from that, this stuff is superior to salt in every way IMO. Salt is a thing of the past for me as long as this stuff is available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROT8 Lures Posted May 19, 2014 Report Share Posted May 19, 2014 Thanks .. I'll try it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted May 19, 2014 Report Share Posted May 19, 2014 I use it. I add a little salt for taste. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carolinamike Posted May 22, 2014 Report Share Posted May 22, 2014 Why not buy silica powder and make it yourself? All the sinking additive is is silica (ground glass). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted May 22, 2014 Report Share Posted May 22, 2014 Why not buy silica powder and make it yourself? All the sinking additive is is silica (ground glass). Early on, I tried fine silica sand (I never thought to look for silica powder) and found it settled out like salt. I actually liked how it would settle to the bottom of my fat Ika mold, because that made them cast even farther, but it settled fast, so I was a stirring fool. I like the HD additive much better. It is easy to use, and stays in suspension (as far as I can tell), so my only concern in my hand pours is keeping the flake, and whatever salt I add, stirred and suspended. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archery1 Posted May 22, 2014 Report Share Posted May 22, 2014 (edited) where did u get ur silica powder? did this make baits as durable as with the hd sinking additive ? Edited May 22, 2014 by archery1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonteSS Posted May 22, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 22, 2014 The HD additive is great for your own baits. The $8 price is fine for a years worth of baits. For resale you can add $1 per pack to offset the price. The customers will love the durability but they wont be coming back for more as often. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
army-boot Posted May 31, 2014 Report Share Posted May 31, 2014 Monte, have you experimented any more with your formula?I remember reading that senkos are not just salt, but salt and something else. Makes me think its salt and silica powder. I was thinking maybe 1 tablespoon of each? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassinfool Posted May 31, 2014 Report Share Posted May 31, 2014 Yamamoto is salt and silica. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
army-boot Posted May 31, 2014 Report Share Posted May 31, 2014 Yamamoto is salt and silica. Ty for confirming, cant wait to give it a shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedyarb Posted May 31, 2014 Report Share Posted May 31, 2014 I order the sinking addative. It was not what I expexted. It looks like concrete and makes any translucent color completely gray. It works fine on blacks and blues though. Any color recipe you want to make will look completely different once the addative is mixed in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted June 1, 2014 Report Share Posted June 1, 2014 It has it's limitations, but it does make baits heavier and tougher, without sacrificing softness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonteSS Posted June 2, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2014 Try a tablespoon of HD and a tablespoon of salt and a tablespoon of softener to 4 oz medium plastic. Slightly more translucent bait and still fairly durable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billz Baitz Posted June 3, 2014 Report Share Posted June 3, 2014 Try a tablespoon of HD and a tablespoon of salt and a tablespoon of softener to 4 oz medium plastic. Slightly more translucent bait and still fairly durable. This is the mix i use thanks to Bill(MonteSS). And yes it is a good mix.. if you want baits that show glitter really well dont use the HD additive because it makes the baits very opaque. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caryb1975 Posted July 30, 2014 Report Share Posted July 30, 2014 Where can you buy the silica powder? I do like the HD Sink Additive but its just to costly. Especially when you are selling baits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Posted July 31, 2014 Report Share Posted July 31, 2014 Where can you buy the silica powder? I do like the HD Sink Additive but its just to costly. Especially when you are selling baits. Google bead blasting media. You can buy it from many sources in small quantities. I have seen it at harbor freight too if you have a store close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
