Coffinshaker Posted November 18, 2012 Report Share Posted November 18, 2012 (edited) Hello all. First off - Great forum!! Alot of good help to be found on here. Second - Sorry for my english - from Denmark I'm thinking about starting to learn about the softbait hand pouring techniques. And i have read alot of threads on this forum and seen a lot of videos on how to do this and know that there are several things to always have in mind when dealing with hot liquid plastic. But My problem is that i can't seem to find ANYONE in Denmark that sells Plastisol. I have mailed a lot of companies, but they all said that they don't use it or don't know what it is. So i'm thinking...are there any other Names for plastisol? Maybe another brand? I now that i can order this from alot of internet shops but it's quite expensive to have them ship 1 or 5 gallons to Denmark plus it might get even more expensive when it reaches Denmark because of Customs and Import duties. and i don't even know if it is legal to ship something like liquid plastic to Denmark... So i really hope you guys can help me The Best Regards - Anders W Edited November 18, 2012 by Coffinshaker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy1976 Posted November 18, 2012 Report Share Posted November 18, 2012 If I were you I would buy runners from carolinamike. Runners are the extra plastic left over from each pour. They will be solid, cheap, and with color and flake so you don't have to buy that stuff also. Good for practicing also. If you are doing big hairs you can pour them with a pyrex or glass measuring cup. gloves and a microwave 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maurizio Posted November 18, 2012 Report Share Posted November 18, 2012 (edited) Andy1976, are you serious? You would buy runners in the US to ship them to Europe? C'mon, really? Anders, before ordering you have to find out more about the import restrictions you mentioned! Edited November 18, 2012 by Maurizio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffinshaker Posted November 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 18, 2012 (edited) If I were you I would buy runners from carolinamike. Runners are the extra plastic left over from each pour. They will be solid, cheap, and with color and flake so you don't have to buy that stuff also. Good for practicing also. If you are doing big hairs you can pour them with a pyrex or glass measuring cup. gloves and a microwave It doesn't Sound like the Way i want to do it...doesn't want the Quick easy solution. Wanna experiment with colours...flakes...molds and so on. But thx for the tip. #3 I was actually hoping that i wouldn't have to order this from the internet because of the shipping costs. Is there no other name for this plastisol or maybe something else, that reacts the same Way When heated? Anders Edited November 18, 2012 by Coffinshaker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy1976 Posted November 19, 2012 Report Share Posted November 19, 2012 I would buy them if I had no experience pouring plastic and wanted to practice. Andy1976, are you serious? You would buy runners in the US to ship them to Europe? C'mon, really? Anders, before ordering you have to find out more about the import restrictions you mentioned! Relax I don't see you offering a better suggestion. We have very cheap international flat drags shipping and I have a few friends who have started this way. Obviously if you find a local plastic dealer you are way better off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maurizio Posted November 19, 2012 Report Share Posted November 19, 2012 (edited) Why should i tell him to buy somewhere in europe if he is not even sure it would be legal to do so (importing plastisol)? One step after another... I do think buying runners and ship them to europe (even in a flat rate box) would not be the number one choice for him and shipping would cost more than the runners themselves. Anyway, i did not mean to offend you There are shops in germany and the netherlands you could ask for shipping rates to denmark. No there are no other names than Plastisol (soft PVC) and no material that reacts the same way this does. There are differnt 2k-silicones you could try but it's not the same stuff. Edited November 19, 2012 by Maurizio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffinshaker Posted November 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2012 Thanks for the answers. I will try looking at what germany can offer. I got some liquid latex from the local hobby shop....could this work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted November 19, 2012 Report Share Posted November 19, 2012 You might want to contact some of the plastisol suppliers here in the US, like Bears, and ask them how to get it to Denmark. I'm pretty sure they've had this question asked before, and might have an answer for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andree Posted November 22, 2012 Report Share Posted November 22, 2012 contact me via info@andreelures.se and i can give you some info about Plastisol from Sweden 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel2345 Posted November 23, 2012 Report Share Posted November 23, 2012 I did see on Caney Creek Molds website, a selection of plastisol labeled "International." Might head to their website and shoot them a message under their "Contact" button, see what they could do for you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffinshaker Posted November 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2012 Hey and thanks for all the answers. I got a link from Maurizio to a website in germany that sells plastisol and color/flakes etc. and i made my first order from them expecting to have it monday Can't wait - preparing molds as we speak ;D Have a great weekend all! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rixon529 Posted November 24, 2012 Report Share Posted November 24, 2012 This info is a little older, but might be useful to you. HT-Baits Henk Thielens, Sophiestraat 4, 6006 GH Weert Netherlands Phone: +31 (0)495 532409 Mobil: +31 (0)6 54280952 Website: http://www.ht-baits.com/ Email link is on website. Lureparts.nl Kraanvogelstraat 5 6921WS Duiven, Gelderland, NL Telephone: +31 (0)64 796 5093 Fax: +31 (0)84 748 3449 Web site: http://www.lureparts.nl Email: info@lureparts.nl Pear Kunstaas Haagwinde 26 3297 WJ Puttershoek, Nederland Tel: 0616958413 or 0612993396 Website: http://www.pear.nl Email: info@pear.nl Good luck! Rick 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maurizio Posted November 24, 2012 Report Share Posted November 24, 2012 (edited) Yes these infos are a little older but still useful . Some new info about these shops: HT-Baits only rarely sells plastic... most of the time they don't have any. Lureparts.nl is good, but has a fiew colors and you have to check the site every now then for updates. Pear Kunstaas is out of the softplastic-business for some time now (a year)! Edited November 24, 2012 by Maurizio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgklfg Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 hello, please tell me how you can get to the site that you suggested user Mouritsio, about plastisol please help me to find. and do you know any sites where you can buy the material and colors at a good price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROWINGADUBAY Posted January 9, 2014 Report Share Posted January 9, 2014 I am just guessing that you have never poured soft baits before, if you have please disregard what I am going to say. You can get a good feel for how your going to like it by making a mold and melting down a cup or two of old worms you already have lying around or bargain bin worms I wouldn't worry about color just throw whatever chewed up bottom of your tackle box worms you can find in a pyrex cup and put them in an old microwave (outdoors of course). You will probably end up with some brownish baits , a clean tackle box. If your dead set on jumping in head first try this link http://ispikeit.com/Store/c-35-lureworks-lure-making-materials.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroutSupport.com Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 I think these guys are in denmark... http://lurefactors.co.uk/index.php?route=information/contact Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gone2long Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 (edited) Do a search for Paul Adams fishing blog he is in the UK and I just saw that he has a link on his blog for plastisol and the associated components that might help you. He also has a youtube channel with some creative bait making projects. The name is Lure Factors Edited January 21, 2014 by Gon2long Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgecrusher Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 Just in regards to runners. It is far cheaper to buy and ship runners overseas than to buy plastisol, about half the price, trust me I'm bought runners and shipped them to Australia. Obvious downside is you get stuck with certain colours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bass kid Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 You should talk to baitjunky they may be able to help you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgecrusher Posted January 22, 2014 Report Share Posted January 22, 2014 Last time I did, they didn't have an economic way to ship overseas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baitjunkys Posted January 22, 2014 Report Share Posted January 22, 2014 Last time I did, they didn't have an economic way to ship overseas.I have considered cooking it clear. I have very good method of controling heat now. Just havent had interest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gone2long Posted January 22, 2014 Report Share Posted January 22, 2014 What? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baitjunkys Posted January 22, 2014 Report Share Posted January 22, 2014 What? Yup. Ship it stiff.. I refuse to put plastic in a bag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsworms Posted January 23, 2014 Report Share Posted January 23, 2014 Yup. Ship it stiff.. I refuse to put plastic in a bag. Well I'm lost on that one. How would you ship it stiff? Are you talking about actually making blocks of colors, then shipping them that way? That, in essence, would pretty much be the same as runners, right? I'm probably way off base here. Wouldn't be the first time. LOL Anyway, my about liquid plastisol........ I wish I had a dollar for every hour I spent trying to figure out the formulation of it. There is no other plastic formula that will react the way it does, and I really have no clue what's in it to make a soft bait.......other than hardener, softener, and stabilizer, of course. And even then, what are those made of?? LOL Those companies that actually MAKE the plastisol have always been very hush-hush about the product, and understandably so. Could you imagine how flooded the market would be if we all knew how to make it? Then again, if we did, a pack of Senkos would probably cost a nickel. In the end, I gave up researching it and just figured you need to be a chemist (or at least have a chemist's mind) to produce the stuff..........and I'm a far cry from that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baitjunkys Posted January 23, 2014 Report Share Posted January 23, 2014 (edited) No, Making Ingots of Clear, no color, I can heat it with my new system just hot enough to make it a solid. This way it isnt overheated prior to customer. Customer heats to 350 add color etc. Was just a thought, I had seen were Edgecrusher or someone before had talked about having it cooked, as shipping liquids international is obviously a PITA. And I could fit more lbs of plastic in a flat rate without the extra packing materials. You would literrally get about 19.5lbs of plastic in a flat rate. Vs about 18 with shipping it in a bag and additional container. Like I said was a thought. Edited January 23, 2014 by Baitjunkys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...