mark poulson Posted November 26, 2012 Report Share Posted November 26, 2012 I'm pouring some soft 6" swimbaits with boot tails. I need a soft plastisol that's still strong. Is there something like that available, or am I dreaming? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djs Posted November 27, 2012 Report Share Posted November 27, 2012 (edited) You could use smooth-on Ecoflex silicone shore 00-30 (plastisol medium) or shore 00-20 (plastisol soft). Down side is cost and cure time. They have a paint that will work. What is the material your molds are made of? If your molds are silicone they must be platinum silicone or the Ecoflex will not cure. Edited November 27, 2012 by djs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBehr Posted November 27, 2012 Report Share Posted November 27, 2012 Try some of the Caney Creek Molds High Density Additive. Not only can you make a bait with the same sink rate as a salted bait...but they are significantly more durable!I use 2 tablespoons in 4oz of plastic. Stir it into cold plastic (that's important). I've caught over a dozen bass on one wacky worm made from HD additive. The additive does not seem to negatively affect the action of the bait .I made a bunch of swim tail worms with it and both myself and my buddy couldn't see any difference....he was the "blind" test..he didn't know which one was the HD and which was standard (medium) Caney Creek plastic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted November 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2012 DaBehr, That looks like it might work. Do you use their plastics, too? If so, how do they pour? Can I use softener with their plastic, if I need to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBehr Posted November 27, 2012 Report Share Posted November 27, 2012 Yes. I personally have changed to Caney Creek plastic. I only pour for myself, my son and my mooching buddies and it's the easiest to work with in my opinion. Yes, Caney Creek sells softener...but the medium works for me for all my bass baits...including small crappie baits. I have been fooling around with pouring the tail section on some baits with softener in them...then pouring the bodies with the HD so they are tough....Works great when you want a two color bait anyway! It's also kind of a cool way to do worms....the tail floats...and the head sinks...rigged Texas rig minus the bullet sinker...or a shaky ...without the lead head! The "no lead shaky" worked really well on Largemouth last weekend in our cold water (iced over now!)....nice and slow...a drove them crazy! Plus I didn't get hung up in the branches on the bottom even once with the hook texas rigged. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted November 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 I ordered both a gallon of their med. phalate free plastisol, and a lb of the high density stuff. I'm really excited about being able to make swimbaits with weighted bellies that are still soft enough to swim. Will I have to add softener if I use the high density material? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonteSS Posted November 28, 2012 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 What you orded will be perfect. Mix 4 oz of plastic and 2 tablespoon HD and the baits will sink well but will be softer than even the medium alone. ...Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted November 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 Sounds great! Thanks!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBehr Posted November 29, 2012 Report Share Posted November 29, 2012 Check out Bill's post on the CCM forum where he did some fantastic analysis of the density of 2 tablespoons/4oz and how that compares to a standard Senko. REALLY good info...and that's why I mix 2 tablespoon/4oz as my "standard" worm. FYI...you'll need to 2x (at least) your colorant to offset the gray color of the additive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted November 29, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2012 That's good to know. Thanks. Maybe I can take advantage of the grey color for my smoke stuff. I'm really intrigued with the idea of a worm with a heavy head that doesn't require a slip sinker for Texas rigging. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...