vabassen02 Posted November 29, 2012 Report Share Posted November 29, 2012 Ok guys , I have been trying to get the black scale lines to show up on the baits , not working out. I have layed the black down first and tried painting over it with another color , but can not get it to turn out right. I see some of ya'll have it down and looks great, any help would be great . Thanks again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedarLakeMusky Posted November 29, 2012 Report Share Posted November 29, 2012 Are you using mesh material or a scale template? CLM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobP Posted November 29, 2012 Report Share Posted November 29, 2012 I spray a color basecoat of white, then a dark color over the area to be scaled (often Createx Gray). Then I cover it with netting and spray the same white basecoat over the netting. The critical part is to use the right white acrylic paint. The best I've found is Superhide White by Polytranspar. It has lots of pigment so it hides dark paint quickly and it dries very quickly, leaving a neat, distinct scale effect on the lure without running or gumming it up. I tone down the effect after I remove the netting by overspraying colors on the scales and/or erasing scale effect from unwanted areas with a little more Superhide White. I dry the paint with a hair dryer after each paint shot. This method has an extra step or two but it provides neat, reliable results. I had given up on trying dark scale effects until Rayburn Guy suggested this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allstate48 Posted November 29, 2012 Report Share Posted November 29, 2012 where can I get Superhide White? Thanks Doug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayburnGuy Posted November 29, 2012 Report Share Posted November 29, 2012 Here's a couple more tips that may help you. Make sure your netting is stretched tightly over the lure. I sometimes tear the netting pulling it so hard to make sure it's wrapped tightly. If your still having problems getting the scale pattern try this. Spray a light coat of whatever color you want your scales to be over the netting once it's on the lure. Paint wants to wick it's way under the scale material and this is probably why your scales aren't showing up. By spraying a light coat of your scale color over the netting it helps seal the netting to the bait and prevent this from happening. Remember you need to spray light coats of paint. Too much buildup of paint over the netting will result in the paint lifting when you go to remove the netting. Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lincoya Posted November 29, 2012 Report Share Posted November 29, 2012 Here's a couple more tips that may help you. Make sure your netting is stretched tightly over the lure. I sometimes tear the netting pulling it so hard to make sure it's wrapped tightly. If your still having problems getting the scale pattern try this. Spray a light coat of whatever color you want your scales to be over the netting once it's on the lure. Paint wants to wick it's way under the scale material and this is probably why your scales aren't showing up. By spraying a light coat of your scale color over the netting it helps seal the netting to the bait and prevent this from happening. Remember you need to spray light coats of paint. Too much buildup of paint over the netting will result in the paint lifting when you go to remove the netting. Ben Here's a couple more tips that may help you. Make sure your netting is stretched tightly over the lure. I sometimes tear the netting pulling it so hard to make sure it's wrapped tightly. If your still having problems getting the scale pattern try this. Spray a light coat of whatever color you want your scales to be over the netting once it's on the lure. Paint wants to wick it's way under the scale material and this is probably why your scales aren't showing up. By spraying a light coat of your scale color over the netting it helps seal the netting to the bait and prevent this from happening. Remember you need to spray light coats of paint. Too much buildup of paint over the netting will result in the paint lifting when you go to remove the netting. Ben Ben, Have you tried spraying your netting with spray adhesive? Spray the netting and let it dry. Then press it against your lure and paint. It doesn't shift or lift and removes nicely with out lifting your paint. It also seals the the edges of the netting to prevent the paint from bleeding under the netting. Gene 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougarftd Posted November 29, 2012 Report Share Posted November 29, 2012 Ben, Have you tried spraying your netting with spray adhesive? Spray the netting and let it dry. Then press it against your lure and paint. It doesn't shift or lift and removes nicely with out lifting your paint. It also seals the the edges of the netting to prevent the paint from bleeding under the netting. Gene Great Tip!!! Thanks for sharing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dochollow Posted November 29, 2012 Report Share Posted November 29, 2012 Gene, what spray adhesive are you using? thanx, DOC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikePaintsBaits Posted November 29, 2012 Report Share Posted November 29, 2012 (edited) Can someone post a pic of what your trying to do , I've added a pic to show what black lines I've always wanted to do , but can never get it right. Don't mean to Hi-Jack your Topic Thanks Mike P. Edited November 29, 2012 by MikePaintsBaits Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-Mac Posted November 29, 2012 Report Share Posted November 29, 2012 great thread... I'm loving the thought of trying out the spray adhesive idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lincoya Posted November 29, 2012 Report Share Posted November 29, 2012 Gene, what spray adhesive are you using? thanx, DOC Gene, what spray adhesive are you using? thanx, DOCDoc,Any of the contact cement sprays (3M, Duro) will work. Just a light mist on the netting is all that's needed. Gene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobP Posted November 29, 2012 Report Share Posted November 29, 2012 Doug, I order Superhide White and other specialty brands of airbrush paint from taxidermy.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayburnGuy Posted November 29, 2012 Report Share Posted November 29, 2012 Ben, Have you tried spraying your netting with spray adhesive? Spray the netting and let it dry. Then press it against your lure and paint. It doesn't shift or lift and removes nicely with out lifting your paint. It also seals the the edges of the netting to prevent the paint from bleeding under the netting. Gene No I haven't Gene, but will definitely be trying it per your suggestion. thanks, Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayburnGuy Posted November 29, 2012 Report Share Posted November 29, 2012 Can someone post a pic of what your trying to do , I've added a pic to show what black lines I've always wanted to do , but can never get it right. Don't mean to Hi-Jack your Topic Thanks Mike P. Are you talking about the X shaped vertical bars Mike? If so I've never tried that. Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikePaintsBaits Posted November 29, 2012 Report Share Posted November 29, 2012 Hey Ben Thats what I'm talking about , the black X vertical bars ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayburnGuy Posted November 29, 2012 Report Share Posted November 29, 2012 The only thing I can think of would be to make a stencil Mike. It seems to me that it would be extremely hard to get that pattern using any type of netting. Just make the stencil in a single line, and long enough to do the largest baits you paint, and then move it from one place to the next to paint the bars. If I'm not making sense holler back and I'll try to explain it differently. Sometimes my thoughts get tangled up somewhere between my brain and the keyboard. Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Prager Posted November 29, 2012 Report Share Posted November 29, 2012 Mike for what you're talking about......the black x's, just drag a toothpick to make the line. Dip the end (unbroken) in a drop of paint for each line. This way they will be consistant. Same thing with the dots Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-Mac Posted November 29, 2012 Report Share Posted November 29, 2012 I haven't tried this, but if I were I would go about it as follows: 1) white base 2) make a stencil and shoot black bars where you want the cross hatch 3) cover with scale mesh pattern and shoot white, then maybe a pearl white over the lure. This should leave the black cross pattern. I can see where the 3m trick would work very nicely for this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Prager Posted November 29, 2012 Report Share Posted November 29, 2012 Another way to do it is to shoot your black through a comb without any netting. Then, throw the net over and shoot over the same comb lines in andother color. It might be hard to tell from this pic but that's how this one was done. This was an older thread of a bait by 6 sense. Mike on your picture, though it appears that the black is over the silver. That is why i think it was done with a toothpick probably running it through the grooves in the blank's scale pattern. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vabassen02 Posted November 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2012 Can someone post a pic of what your trying to do , I've added a pic to show what black lines I've always wanted to do , but can never get it right. Don't mean to Hi-Jack your Topic Thanks Mike P. Mike , No worries on the hi-jack , sounds we both trying to do the same thing and your pic are the lines I am having the trouble with I will try to post a pic in a few .Thanks, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vabassen02 Posted November 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2012 Thanks to everybody for the tips < i am trying to post a pic of a couple baits. Thanks again , Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vabassen02 Posted November 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2012 I can't figure out how to post pics, Can someone explain how to? thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vabassen02 Posted November 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2012 Can someone post a pic of what your trying to do , I've added a pic to show what black lines I've always wanted to do , but can never get it right. Don't mean to Hi-Jack your Topic Thanks Mike P. How did you post the pic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikePaintsBaits Posted November 30, 2012 Report Share Posted November 30, 2012 (edited) Hey VA See now I have to think about it , I can't , Laughing Ok ... Once you post , go back into your post , hit edit , once in edit mode , go into full edit mode , at the bottom of the page you will see "Attach Files" Browse , Browse your pic's , Click on pic you want , then hit "Attach This File" Click - Submit Mod Post Edited November 30, 2012 by MikePaintsBaits Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikePaintsBaits Posted November 30, 2012 Report Share Posted November 30, 2012 Thanks everyone for there tips & Thanks Again VA Mike P. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
