Salty's Posted March 29, 2013 Report Share Posted March 29, 2013 Would love to learn more about this if you did a tutorial about lures. They are very distinct shapes and attributes. I have been mucking around with 3d stuff for several years now. Dave is a master of this stuff. Was a huge help in getting my feet wet. It's very time consuming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stretcher66 Posted March 30, 2013 Report Share Posted March 30, 2013 i am not sure if this will help, but maybe for someone starting out with CAD, some of these models may help as a guideline. http://grabcad.com/library?per_page=20&query=lure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodkaman Posted March 30, 2013 Report Share Posted March 30, 2013 Here is a selection of some of my models. I have not included any of the sold models as that would not be fair to the customers. All models drawn using CATIA V5. I have left the surface joint lines on the first two, so that you can see the basic construction plan. Sometimes I use circles but the best results come with splines. The hardest parts to model are the nose and tail. I use a lateral line to shift the buoyancy up higher. The second was a swimbait idea. I decided that it looked too lumpy and so never built it. The CAD model allows you to see a realistic image without leaving your seat. The craw was modeled just for my own interest, to see if it was possible and how long it would take. I had a buyer interested, but he was not prepared to pay for the time. Even though it was already drawn, I would not give it away for peanuts. The fourth image of the Bawal is a recent project, to design a quick and easy to build lure. Build and assembly time is less than 30 minutes. A great hunter and it catches fish, one of the few lures I have actually fished. The green swimbait was an early design, to test the effect of joint directions. Result – the joint needs to be reversed. Cad was very useful for planning out the hardware layout. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCAngler Posted March 30, 2013 Report Share Posted March 30, 2013 Dave - Thats some awesome stuff! You mention that you have customers, do you do this on a consultant level or do you manufacture/sell your baits? I'm beginning to get to a point where I could see selling my baits once I get them tweaked and tested (<1 year), and seems like youve gone through alot of the obstacles I'm about to come upon. If it would be ok, I'd like to PM you and ask you a few questions. Once again, these are some great looking baits! Since it seems like CAD isnt the dominant means of prototpying lures on here, lets mix it up alittle bit. Does anyone have any pictures of their full line of lures(CAD or Physical image)? Example: Shallow Crank, Deep Crank, Topwater, Craw , Frog, Lipless crank, and so on? I thought this would be interesting to see since this is the approach I'm taking right now, trying to fill out a "line" of products. Just a thought to give everyone a place to showcase their Brand! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodkaman Posted March 30, 2013 Report Share Posted March 30, 2013 Ohio angler - PM is fine. Maybe you should start a new thread for the other questions, as the subject is moving away from the original. DAve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hazmail Posted March 31, 2013 Report Share Posted March 31, 2013 Thank god I am not smart enough to understand this Dave, I would need 36 hours in a day. Nice 'drawings' all. I wish--I wish. Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCAngler Posted July 2, 2013 Report Share Posted July 2, 2013 Just got around to printing the swimbait from my previous post, and now I am tweaking the ballast location and line tie location to get it to swim correctly. Almost there! Now I need to find someone to do some paint jobs! PS- Can I upload videos to my post? I have a .mov file of this bait swimming as well I just didnt know how to upload it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-Mac Posted July 2, 2013 Report Share Posted July 2, 2013 That looks awesome! So that was done with a 3d printer? How long does it take it to make? I'd be very interested in seeing a video. Is it a buoyant material, or is it hollow? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCAngler Posted July 3, 2013 Report Share Posted July 3, 2013 That looks awesome! So that was done with a 3d printer? How long does it take it to make? I'd be very interested in seeing a video. Is it a buoyant material, or is it hollow? So, 3d printers typically print in abs plastic with many colors to choose from. At work, I use the printers for prototyping mechanisms and form factor models when we need it quickly. It also prototypes fishing lures quite well. There are a couple problems with it though. I print the parts as I'd they were to be injection molded parts and glue the two halves together. Inherently this is hollow. But! I have to seal the model to make it watertight. This is done by dipping the model in acetone using a process I have developed here at work. When I generate the cad file I can place the lead ballast weight in the part apply material properties and immediately tell where my center of buoyancy and center of gravity are. Then if moving these critical points is necessary I can do so methodically with in a couple minutes plus about 2 hours to print the updated prototype. Really cool technology and I think as it becomes more affordable lure designers will have them in their homes, I know I will! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCAngler Posted January 17, 2015 Report Share Posted January 17, 2015 Well, I thought I might dig this one out in case anyone still has interest in hobby cnc. In the past 6 months I have designed, built, and started cutting lures with my CNC router. I have ~600.00 in my machine, not including software although there are some quite capable free software options out there. Just wanted to show that if you really want to turn your CAD creations into a wooden lure, nylon mold, polycarbonate bill, etc. you can do it for less than what a lot of folks will tell you. Here's the proof. If you want to get a more detailed list of where I bought my components and what those components are just PM me. Happy building! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodkaman Posted January 18, 2015 Report Share Posted January 18, 2015 This is good. I would love to see a video of the machine in action. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCAngler Posted January 18, 2015 Report Share Posted January 18, 2015 Dave- I'll work on posting a video. Been busy cutting crafts. The things I do for having a CNC in the spare bedroom...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLT785 Posted January 18, 2015 Report Share Posted January 18, 2015 For all DIY'ers, check this site. http://www.openbuilds.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodkaman Posted January 18, 2015 Report Share Posted January 18, 2015 SLT - great link, some amazing minds out there Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCAngler Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 Wow SLT, that's a great place to start if your thinking of undergoing a diy build. Too bad I'm just now finding it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCAngler Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 Well I tried to drown out the high pitched squeal of the router from the video. David Crosby has a similar effect on some people so that's a bit ironic, but I like him. Notice the two steel pins in the work piece. This is a very simple way to key your parts for flipping when cutting both sides of a part. I cut the locations for my ballast weights first, and then flipped the workpiece to cut what your seeing in the video. At the end you'll find a pan over on a few precut and finished lures. This happens to be a topwater design of mine, and the wood is cedar if anyone's wondering. Makes the spare bedroom smell like a hamster cage haha 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodkaman Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 Great stuff, well done. Because you are able to mill out the inside cavity with such precision, this would enable you to use denser materials and still achieve a fairly light buoyancy. Plus, precision location of your hardware for repeatability. This method is never going to be 100 bodies an hour, but once the method is reliable, you don't have to stand over it. Lots of advantages - I like it. Dave 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
