Bassinjunkie88 Posted February 28, 2013 Report Share Posted February 28, 2013 Anyone have any success at making a frog float? I just picked up floating plastic but have no idea he much to try. Any advice would be appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFP Posted February 28, 2013 Report Share Posted February 28, 2013 You should be able to make it float with micro ballons as long as the volume of the frog is big enough. They will make the bait opaque though...so get ready for a color change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBehr Posted February 28, 2013 Report Share Posted February 28, 2013 Be VERY Careful with Micro balloons ...they are a significant inhalation hazard. I work for a high tech plastics company and we no longer offer any product with the material due to safety issues. If you want to make the frogs float with a heavy hook, I pour the belly, then crazy glue (just to hold it) a slice of a foam shower shoe from Walmart, then inject the rest of the frog. I don't think it's really worth all the effort. PVC plastic floats anyway...and all you are really doing is offsetting the weight of the hook. I keep my frogs moving at a decent pace...and even if they sink they get pulled right back up to the surface if I'm using Mono as my line (mono floats). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassinfool Posted February 28, 2013 Report Share Posted February 28, 2013 Be VERY Careful with Micro balloons ...they are a significant inhalation hazard. I work for a high tech plastics company and we no longer offer any product with the material due to safety issues. I second this. As long as you keep the bait moving at a decent rate you can keep it on top of the water or at the least right below the surface. The micro balloons are dangerous so if you are dead set at creating a frog that floats you absolutely have to where a respirator or at the very least a dust mask to prevent breathing in the micro balloons. You don't want them going into your lungs at all and in my opinion the risk far outweighs the gains. Something else that will make your baits more buoyant is not adding salt to your plastic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonteSS Posted February 28, 2013 Report Share Posted February 28, 2013 Some people that use the microballons add it to worm oil and store it as a thick liquid or paste. That way you only deal with the hazardous materials once and no everytime you use it. ...Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Painter1 Posted February 28, 2013 Report Share Posted February 28, 2013 There is a video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlKr3I4AQhA&feature=youtu.be Made by Jason of Caney Creek Molds that might be helpful. Also, Lucky Craft makes a floating nylon line called "Iron Athlete" that works better than mono for me. It does not get water logged like my mono seems to after awhile. The only downside is that it is bright yellow, but that hasn't seemed to matter in my experience with it. http://www.tacklewarehouse.com/Lucky_Craft_Iron_Athlete_Mono_Topwater_Line/descpage-LCIAMT.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted February 28, 2013 Report Share Posted February 28, 2013 My experience with floating soft plastic frogs from Stanley is that they need to be so light that they don't cast well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassinjunkie88 Posted March 1, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2013 I just picked this floating plastic up off a guy from another site. Is this the dangerous type, or am I OK to use it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBehr Posted March 1, 2013 Report Share Posted March 1, 2013 The plastic is probably fine. It's using the microspheres (micro bubbles) that is the inhalation hazard. By the way...most (all?) plastisol floats (less dense than water). It's what we add to it (salt, hooks etc) that causes the bait to sink. One of the main reasons I started into this hobby was to make wacky worms that floated (no salt) so I could retrieve them when they get thrown. If you are making baits for yourself (and don't care that they don't look perfect) ...purposely whip some bubbles into your hot plastic (be careful not to splash!!!) and your baits will float like a cork! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tupong Posted March 4, 2013 Report Share Posted March 4, 2013 I make a floating frog using balsa wood inserts. Heres some pics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassinjunkie88 Posted March 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2013 I make a floating frog using balsa wood inserts. Heres some pics Pretty cool...who makes that type of mold? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted March 4, 2013 Report Share Posted March 4, 2013 Do you seal the balsa first so it doesn't absorb water once you begin fishing the frog? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nova Posted March 4, 2013 Report Share Posted March 4, 2013 (edited) Let's see if we can get people thinking. What rises/floats better than anything else in water? Trust me this is leading somewhere. Edited March 4, 2013 by nova Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nova Posted March 4, 2013 Report Share Posted March 4, 2013 Styrofoam. Not sure about the melting point of styro though. Nope. Quite a bit more simple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basseducer Posted March 4, 2013 Report Share Posted March 4, 2013 How about an insert for the mold like the ones on the injected hollow belly swimbait? You would have to have an injected frog mold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nova Posted March 4, 2013 Report Share Posted March 4, 2013 (edited) How about an insert for the mold like the ones on the injected hollow belly swimbait? You would have to have an injected frog mold. Bingo. Nothing floats better or is more practical than air.(and it's free)lol. I do mine as a handpour. I don't do injection baits. I prefer the creativity of handpouring. I'll post a pic in the gallery in a day or two. Edited March 4, 2013 by nova 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tupong Posted March 4, 2013 Report Share Posted March 4, 2013 The mold is a ccm/doit mold. I dont seal the balsa wood as its totally incapsulated in the frog. I've tried to get an air pocket in the body of the frog but after many attempts and failures I came up with this way. regards mick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nova Posted March 13, 2013 Report Share Posted March 13, 2013 Sorry it took so long guys but the frog is in the gallery. It's hollow and floats like no body's business. Hope it get's some imaginations going. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stonecold13 Posted March 15, 2013 Report Share Posted March 15, 2013 there's Isumi umami shad that is hollow on the half back of it , I have just brought it , have not try yet . it will float just like small fish eating something. http://www.izumi-fishing.eu/softbaits/umami/eng thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSC Posted March 15, 2013 Report Share Posted March 15, 2013 "Sorry it took so long guys but the frog is in the gallery. It's hollow and floats like no body's business." Looks like that should work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...