Krash7172 Posted May 5, 2013 Report Share Posted May 5, 2013 Cold and rainy saturday so I decided to try setting multiple coats of DN. I dipped 5 coats in 2 hours and it looks great. Probably take week to cure though. I'm trying to dry out the solvent quickly before the DN starts to cure. Build up a single thick layer to cure slowly rather than several separately cured layers to avoid wrinkles. http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u305/Krash7172/misc/20130504_215609.jpg Here's what I did. I didn't want any variables so I took a stainless steel utinsel and painted it with acrylic. I put it in my food dehydrator for 1 hour at 90F to dry (I checked with a thermometer and it was 93F). Dipped in DN and put back in the dehydrator for 30 minutes. Repeat several times. First coat looked good. Second was better. Third, fourth and fifth were glossy prefection. I left it in the dehydrator for an hour after coat #5. 5 hours after starting, It is dry to the touch. Now we wait Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobP Posted May 5, 2013 Report Share Posted May 5, 2013 Thanks for the update! Too often, guys say they will test something and we never hear from them again. One ??? that I think is still pending is the ideal re-coat timing. Using simple air drying, I've typically waited at least 24 hrs before re-coating but have wondered if it is like some auto primers that say re-coating should be within 45 minutes or after 24 hrs. I doubt it's an issue for Dick Nite spoons since he probably wants a "one dip only" regimen for manufacturing purposes. For hobbyists there are secondary considerations such as: Do I want to expose this touchy DN to ambient moisture multiple times to build up a thicker finish? That can only be answered by the individual builder who has to decide how much finish is enough, depending on his preferences. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krash7172 Posted May 5, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 5, 2013 After 24 hrs, it still looks perfect. Even the tip where it built up very thick. I doubt I'll see any trouble past this point. I'll let it cure a full week and then beat it up a bit. I had originally planned on letting it set for an hour between coats but it dried quickly. I kept checking it and after only 30 minutes, it was still tacky but I could touch it without causing damage. As far as multiple exposures to moisture, I tap and discard so I only exposed the can once. Seems a bit wasteful but its an even bigger waste to cure the whole can! Also, I know 5 coats is extreme. I just wanted to push it further than a reasonable 2 or 3 coats to see what it would do. The other day I realized that I had used the same container 4 times to dip. I dumped the remaining DN so, I basically lined the container with 4 coats. The time bewteen uses varied between 24 hrs and a full week. Sometimes I let liquid DN sit in it for a couple hours. There are no bubbles or wrinkles. I can't say I understand why it sometimes causes trouble to recoat but I am excited that I might have found a way to help prevent it. Now I just need my shipment of lures to arrive for a real test. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krash7172 Posted May 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2013 5 days later, looks perfect. Something interesting ive observed. I airbrushed the acrylic just like i would have on a lure. I dipped further than where the acrylic stopped. It is significantly harder where there is no acrylic. The pure poly is harder. Its visible by simply pressing my fingernail in the topcoat. I also dipped a lure at the same time. 1 dip. I was curious what clear acrylic would do for filling in inperfections where i glued eyes on. I only painted one side and i used 2 coats clear. Part of the lure was just sanded factory finish. The side with sanded factory finish only and no acrylic is much harder. IMO, I think its best to keep the underlayer to minimum if you need a durable top coat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krash7172 Posted May 13, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2013 My original test and a few lures are a success. I learned to make sure to get as much off the tail as you can to not build up too thick. The test utinsel is pretty hard but i suspect it will continue to cure. I poured some DN on a flat surface a few weeks ago and it formed a much thicker layer than dipping. It took 2 weeks to get extremely hard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hazmail Posted May 13, 2013 Report Share Posted May 13, 2013 Thanks krash, all usefull/ very good information here. Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluetickhound Posted May 16, 2013 Report Share Posted May 16, 2013 (edited) Any time I tried to do multiple coats of http://www.tackleunderground.com/community/index.php?/topic/25003-dick-nite-crinkle-finish/?fromsearch=1 Edited May 16, 2013 by bluetickhound Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krash7172 Posted May 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2013 I did my first "production" run. 6 lures all with 3 coats 25 mins apart in the dehydrator. All 6 are perfect. I left them in the dehydrator for 8 hours. After 3 days, they are well cured and ready to fish. I also used a minimal amount of acrylic. I was generous with the super glue to fill voids around the hologram eyes rather than using more paint. DN directly over the super glue with no reaction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krash7172 Posted August 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 9, 2013 I fished my lures for the first time today. Caught a 16" bluefish and a similar striped bass. Finish held up well until i bounced it off a rock. Damage to the lure was no worse than what i experience with comercial lures. Success! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Moose Baits Posted August 9, 2013 Report Share Posted August 9, 2013 Thanks for the reports Krash, I just wish that stuff was cheaper...isn't it like $325 a gallon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobP Posted August 9, 2013 Report Share Posted August 9, 2013 The delivered price is around $50 per quart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Moose Baits Posted August 9, 2013 Report Share Posted August 9, 2013 (edited) The delivered price is around $50 per quart Edited August 9, 2013 by Mad Moose Baits Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Moose Baits Posted August 9, 2013 Report Share Posted August 9, 2013 edit*** disregard, the search feature is your friend.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
