mark poulson Posted June 3, 2013 Report Share Posted June 3, 2013 I am trying to get a watermelon/black and red flake. I went to Kosher salt...better. I added the salt and softner before I heated the plastic, and then, when I had it to 335, I added the flake, stirred it in, reheated to bring it back up to 335, and poured. What was a green plastic came out with a more brown tinge, and the red flake looks orange. What am I doing wrong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted June 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2013 I did a search, and found I'd asked the same question last year. Doh!!! I still can't figure it out. Drat! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nova Posted June 4, 2013 Report Share Posted June 4, 2013 Too much heat Mark. Add heat stabilzer to the batch. I assume you're using a micro. Reheat in short blasts say 30 secs. Did you use the foil yet? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patrick reif Posted June 4, 2013 Report Share Posted June 4, 2013 when I was making greenpumpkin with blue flake, the plastic came out as watermelon with blue flake. To take it back to GP, I had to add red colorant. Maybe the reverse is true for you. Try adding blue colorant a couple drops at a time and see if it works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassinfool Posted June 4, 2013 Report Share Posted June 4, 2013 I put a recipe for Zooms watermelon red in the cook book. Try giving that one a try, I use LC flake and don't have any problems with bleeding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonteSS Posted June 4, 2013 Report Share Posted June 4, 2013 (edited) I think the red flake makes the watermelon look browner. I dont think it actually bleeds. Same as putting black flake makes the color look darker Also Kosher salt is very large. Make sure you powder it or it will not suspend well.. ...Bill Edited June 4, 2013 by MonteSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted June 5, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2013 Thanks guys. Adding the blue colorant helped. I think I need a darker shade of blue, but it definately brought back the green. Nova, I'll try less heat, and adding the flake just before I pour. I did try the foil. It looks great. I like how it shimmers in the water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluetickhound Posted June 19, 2013 Report Share Posted June 19, 2013 Tell me more about the foil.... Sounds very interesting!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carolinamike Posted June 19, 2013 Report Share Posted June 19, 2013 Patrick, you and Mark have accidently stumbled on to the secret of the color "Magic Craw". The blue flake is not changing the color of the plastic, its actually the reflection of the light off of the flake, if you want it to stay green pumpkin, make the green pumpkin coloring dark enough so the light wont penetrate the bait. People dont realize how much light affects the colors when the reflection of flake is involved, once you figure out the reflective properties that some colors of flake have with different pigments you can come up with some really neat colors, keep in mind that the bait needs to be transparent to get the full effect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nova Posted June 19, 2013 Report Share Posted June 19, 2013 Tell me more about the foil.... Sounds very interesting!! I use stamping foil under my photo finish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluetickhound Posted June 19, 2013 Report Share Posted June 19, 2013 How does the process work? I tried a search but didn't turn anything up. Are you able to apply a photo finish to a soft plastic? If so I bet you could make some amazing swimbaits that way.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nova Posted June 19, 2013 Report Share Posted June 19, 2013 (edited) How does the process work? I tried a search but didn't turn anything up. Are you able to apply a photo finish to a soft plastic? If so I bet you could make some amazing swimbaits that way.... Won't work on soft baits. It's a process for hardbaits. Do you do hardbaits? If so; PM me and I'll let you know. This conversation should be in the hardbait forum and I don't want to highjack this string. Edited June 19, 2013 by nova Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
