DodgeRammin920 Posted June 7, 2013 Report Share Posted June 7, 2013 Hey, guys. I got out of commercial production as well as pouring in general a few years ago and cleaned out my mold inventory. I'm looking to get back into it next year but as I've been browsing around, I have found very few molds that aren't injection. I really enjoyed pouring and never had much of an interest in an injector but am a bit frustrated in regards to the options I have in hand pour molds. Are these something that the major mold manufactures might have but don't list them on their website? Or has the industry changed a bit and is injection something I should reconsider? I really loved the artistic aspect of pouring and like I said, have never wanted to change. Thanks for any help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gone2long Posted June 7, 2013 Report Share Posted June 7, 2013 Most of their attention has focused on the injection side as they make superior baits with small appendages and such, that being said contact the various mold manufacturers as I'm quite sure they still have the machine code for any of the hand pour molds that they sold in the past. Lurecraft still offers the most selection as far as 1 piece hand pour molds are concerned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travis Posted June 8, 2013 Report Share Posted June 8, 2013 (edited) I will firmly disagree with injection makes superior baits. I still buy from others on occasion to check out the product and can say much of what I find is why so many originally got into pouring in the first place. Focus switched for many reasons and thin appendages wasn't it (but a nice addition but only recently in the grand scheme of things). Bottom line injectors allowed anyone to make baits easily and quickly. Injectors fit the bill for many guys. Some physically weren't capable of pouring a bait because they shake so bad, some just don't have the patience, etc... Hand pour molds are still readily available and one can always make very nice molds with some practice. I rarely use my injectors and injection molds and opt for hand pouring as I find it more enjoyable. Edited June 8, 2013 by Travis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonteSS Posted June 8, 2013 Report Share Posted June 8, 2013 Many hand pour molds were exact copies and infringed on patent so have been discontinued. ...Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toadfrog Posted June 8, 2013 Report Share Posted June 8, 2013 I will firmly disagree with injection makes superior baits. I still buy from others on occasion to check out the product and can say much of what I find is why so many originally got into pouring in the first place. Focus switched for many reasons and thin appendages wasn't it (but a nice addition but only recently in the grand scheme of things). Bottom line injectors allowed anyone to make baits easily and quickly. Injectors fit the bill for many guys. Some physically weren't capable of pouring a bait because they shake so bad, some just don't have the patience, etc... Hand pour molds are still readily available and one can always make very nice molds with some practice. I rarely use my injectors and injection molds and opt for hand pouring as I find it more enjoyable. X2 on that I shake like a possum craping peache seeds . Thats an ugly sight . now if I do a hand pour I lay a 1/4 inch flat sheet of aluminum with a weight on it and put up with the trimming . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gone2long Posted June 8, 2013 Report Share Posted June 8, 2013 I often get that response from old school hand pour folks my response was directed at the fact that the industry has leaned to injection and the reasons posted are just a slice of it as you stated speed, consistency no trimming/flashing, tail splitting, consistent laminates it goes on and on. The market demand for injection molds has all but put hand pour molds on the shelf for most new bait maker's coming into the game as the original poster has found. Hand pour is not dead it's just in the ICU on life support when and if it recovers it will most likely be relinquished to a retirement home to live it out its remaining years with all the other old methods and old school pourers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drago619 Posted June 8, 2013 Report Share Posted June 8, 2013 Because of the lack of molds available and basically not having want I want, I've started making my own molds. I've been using clay and sand paper thus far and it's been both challenging and rewarding... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DodgeRammin920 Posted June 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2013 Thanks, guys. It's a shame that hand-pouring is being shoved out. Drago, you have any pictures of your molds/baits? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drago619 Posted June 9, 2013 Report Share Posted June 9, 2013 check this link then you can click on the photo near the bottom of the thread.... http://www.tackleunderground.com/community/index.php?/topic/26437-newbie-help-with-hand-pouring/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluetickhound Posted June 9, 2013 Report Share Posted June 9, 2013 I see a very (as in VERY) few open pour molds on Basstackle.com FWIW... I actually just bought one myself and it should be here monday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DodgeRammin920 Posted June 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2013 Bluetick, same here. I don't remember it being like that a few years ago. Drago, those swimbaits look SICK. That's amazing. If you ever found the time to write up a tutorial with pictures, I'm sure many would benefit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gone2long Posted June 9, 2013 Report Share Posted June 9, 2013 Dodge, check out Linmar molds they have a decent selection of hand pour molds, not sure what their made of but their hard unlike RTV molds. Also Lurecraft is carrying some other brands as well they have Del's who has a load of one piece molds over there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nova Posted June 9, 2013 Report Share Posted June 9, 2013 (edited) There are things you can do with handpouring that injectors can only dream about. If you want a "cookie cutter" type of bait then injection is the way to go. If you want an "artform" type of bait then handpouring is the way to go. It just depends on what you want; but believe me hand pouring will never be "shoved out". Another point is that handpouring doesn't mean flat side. I design all my baits and most are 360. I only own one type of aluminum mold and that is a top pour stick mold. Edited June 9, 2013 by nova Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluetickhound Posted June 9, 2013 Report Share Posted June 9, 2013 There are things you can do with handpouring that injectors can only dream about. If you want a "cookie cutter" type of bait then injection is the way to go. If you want an "artform" type of bait then handpouring is the way to go. It just depends on what you want; but believe me hand pouring will never be "shoved out". Another point is that handpouring doesn't mean flat side. I design all my baits and most are 360. I only own one type of aluminum mold and that is a top pour stick mold. Nova, the mold I have coming in tomorrow is a top pour also... If you don't mind telling (and I would totally understand you NOT wanting to!!!) how do you achieve the effect you did with those senkos? Pour all three(?) colors at the same time? My worm mold is an 8 cavity Roboworm style deal that I would LOVE to make in the type of swirls you are making! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nova Posted June 9, 2013 Report Share Posted June 9, 2013 (edited) It's done with a 3 chamber pyrex cup. I have no problem sharing. That's what TU is all about and why it was founded. Edited June 9, 2013 by nova Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apdriver Posted June 9, 2013 Report Share Posted June 9, 2013 Nova, those are really really NICE!!!!!! Very impressed.... It's amazing how much talent is on the pages of TU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nova Posted June 9, 2013 Report Share Posted June 9, 2013 Nova, those are really really NICE!!!!!! Very impressed.... It's amazing how much talent is on the pages of TU. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishbayte Posted June 10, 2013 Report Share Posted June 10, 2013 AWESOME worms!!! I will have to get over my fear of metal in the microwave and give those a try! AWESOME baits!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluetickhound Posted June 10, 2013 Report Share Posted June 10, 2013 I was wondering if you couldn't heat the plastic in a pan on a hot plate (i have a two burner and the appropriate pans) and just fill the cup from there... I'm just really leery of nuking metal, having had a near disaster (non luremaking related...) with that years ago... If you google the subject you'll find plenty of folks that seem to do it with no ill effect but it appears that a little luck always seems to be involved... The trick seems to be not having sharp edges to touch off an arc... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nova Posted June 10, 2013 Report Share Posted June 10, 2013 I was wondering if you couldn't heat the plastic in a pan on a hot plate (i have a two burner and the appropriate pans) and just fill the cup from there... I'm just really leery of nuking metal, having had a near disaster (non luremaking related...) with that years ago... If you google the subject you'll find plenty of folks that seem to do it with no ill effect but it appears that a little luck always seems to be involved... The trick seems to be not having sharp edges to touch off an arc... You're probably in more danger by doing that as you may shock the pyrex and explode it.(I have done that in the past) It's not the sharp edges; it's the shiny edges. Try it on short bursts first(10 secs); then increase the times and you'll see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayburnGuy Posted June 10, 2013 Report Share Posted June 10, 2013 Didn't Mythbusters do a show about putting metal in a microwave? Seems like they did it with no ill effects. Can't remember exactly how they did it or what precautions they took. Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluetickhound Posted June 10, 2013 Report Share Posted June 10, 2013 I always wondered why my Microwave blew up (not literally but it was a sight to behold....) when the inside of almost every microwave I have ever seen is made of metal... Heck, some of 'em even have wire racks inside nowadays.... I'm not going to fool around with aluminum though.... If tin has been working for Nova then I plan to follow suit. It isn't expensive and i bet if I looked around my garage or attic I'd find some for free anyway! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassinfool Posted June 10, 2013 Report Share Posted June 10, 2013 All metals have different levels of conductivity, aluminum being a wonderful conductor of electricity. Ever put a chikfila pouch in the microwave? Makes for a nice little light show, my 5 year old cousin treated me to that little gem haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy1976 Posted June 10, 2013 Report Share Posted June 10, 2013 You can stick metal in the commercial microwaves like restaurants use. I used to like to throw a shiny stainless pot in the micro wave and start it when I was training some one new at the restaurant. I remember they would run for it right when I hit start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
