A-Mac Posted September 4, 2013 Report Share Posted September 4, 2013 (edited) Has anyone trying the Eagle brand from Home Depot noticed that in the description of the product it says it is not UV resistant? Just wondering how much of a problem this is going to be. Ben The eagle supreme says that it is non-yellowing... so I presumed this to mean the same. I don't think it would do much good as a concrete coating if it couldn't take the sun. I figure fishing lures are never going to see a comparable amount of exposure either... unless it's hung in a tree. Of course, time will tell. Edited September 4, 2013 by A-Mac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayburnGuy Posted September 4, 2013 Report Share Posted September 4, 2013 I was just going by what it says under the product specifications on Home Depot's website. You can find where it says that it's not UV resistant at the link below. Just click on "Specifications" once you get to the site. http://www.homedepot.com/p/Eagle-1-Gal-Gloss-Coat-Clear-Wet-Look-Solvent-Based-Acrylic-Concrete-Sealer-EUC1/203075971#product_description Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-Mac Posted September 4, 2013 Report Share Posted September 4, 2013 I was just going by what it says under the product specifications on Home Depot's website. You can find where it says that it's not UV resistant at the link below. Just click on "Specifications" once you get to the site. http://www.homedepot.com/p/Eagle-1-Gal-Gloss-Coat-Clear-Wet-Look-Solvent-Based-Acrylic-Concrete-Sealer-EUC1/203075971#product_description Ben This is kind of contradicting to the product overview "Non-yellowing UV resistant" "UV stable" However, the one I picked up the other day from the store was the eagle supreme gloss coat. The one above is just for the gloss coat. Under the specifications, the eagle supreme is labeled as uv resistant. I paid around $21 for it, and it looks great... so far. http://www.homedepot.com/p/Eagle-1-Gal-Supreme-Seal-Clear-High-Gloss-Solvent-Based-Acrylic-Concrete-Sealer-EU1/202374891#specifications Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayburnGuy Posted September 4, 2013 Report Share Posted September 4, 2013 The one Nate first spoke of is the one for $24.97 and that's what I thought we were talking about here. Apparently the one you bought is a different product A-Mac. I didn't realize you had found another sealer in the Eagle line of sealers. So I guess we're both right. Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhersh Posted September 5, 2013 Report Share Posted September 5, 2013 (edited) I painted up a crank I needed for a tourny. the other day in a hurry and dipped it in gst let it dry to the touch and dipped it again and let it dry for a day. Last night I fished a small tourny. 3 hrs long, I threw the bait into brushpiles the whole night. I pulled it back out of the rod locker this evening to look at it, it had hook rash down to the plastic on one side on the other side it had a chip out of it where I hit something when I cast it, also it had some check marks on the top of the bait around the eyes and other places. I think the lacquer in the gst eats into the paint and mixs with the paint if that makes any sense? The next time I hope to have a few more coats of gst on it and more dry time. I tried to post pic's of it but I just can't figure out how to do it. Royce Edited September 5, 2013 by rhersh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdL Posted September 5, 2013 Report Share Posted September 5, 2013 That interesting as I tried to look for whats available in concrete sealers locally. I'd rather pick out a new color of socks. There are so many types of sealers and their specification are so similar but different to make me want to just stay with Devcon 2 ton epoxy. It's also easy to chase 'rabbits' when postings don't call out exactly what product is being discussed. Even Devcon has more than 2 types of epoxy. Oh well, if somebody can figure out what works for them power to them. Meanwhile the chase for the grail continues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhersh Posted September 5, 2013 Report Share Posted September 5, 2013 That interesting as I tried to look for whats available in concrete sealers locally. I'd rather pick out a new color of socks. There are so many types of sealers and their specification are so similar but different to make me want to just stay with Devcon 2 ton epoxy. It's also easy to chase 'rabbits' when postings don't call out exactly what product is being discussed. Even Devcon has more than 2 types of epoxy. Oh well, if somebody can figure out what works for them power to them. Meanwhile the chase for the grail continues. Amen to that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayburnGuy Posted September 5, 2013 Report Share Posted September 5, 2013 I painted up a crank I needed for a tourny. the other day in a hurry and dipped it in gst let it dry to the touch and dipped it again and let it dry for a day. Last night I fished a small tourny. 3 hrs long, I threw the bait into brushpiles the whole night. I pulled it back out of the rod locker this evening to look at it, it had hook rash down to the plastic on one side on the other side it had a chip out of it where I hit something when I cast it, also it had some check marks on the top of the bait around the eyes and other places. I think the lacquer in the gst eats into the paint and mixs with the paint if that makes any sense? The next time I hope to have a few more coats of gst on it and more dry time. I tried to post pic's of it but I just can't figure out how to do it. Royce PM sent. Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhersh Posted September 5, 2013 Report Share Posted September 5, 2013 Thanks rayburn guy! That's as easy as mud once you figure out how to find your pic's on your computer. Im not very tech savvy, but you made it easy enough for me to do it thanks again Rayburn guy. Here are the pic's of the lure I fished the other night, and the damage to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhersh Posted September 5, 2013 Report Share Posted September 5, 2013 OK! now I need to learn how to get my pic's clearer. The one on the right is down to the plastic but does not show up very good in the pic. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougarftd Posted September 5, 2013 Report Share Posted September 5, 2013 Thanks rayburn guy! That's as easy as mud once you figure out how to find your pic's on your computer. Im not very tech savvy, but you made it easy enough for me to do it thanks again Rayburn guy. Here are the pic's of the lure I fished the other night, and the damage to it.001.JPG002.JPG That was the same result I had with 2 coats and less than a day to cure. When I went 4 coats (2 hrs apart)and let it cure for the week my results were much more positive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Posted September 5, 2013 Report Share Posted September 5, 2013 Definatley looks like A-Mac and I have two different products.Mine is: Eagle Gloss coat clear wet look solvent based acrylic concrete sealer....I Noticed A-Macs said it was oil based.....His maybe a better product for our use...I couldn't find the solid content on his....Mine is 25%...Nathan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Moose Baits Posted September 5, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2013 Another note on the GST: I use vinyl dots for my dshad baits and cut them in half for my bluegill ears. Well GST doesn't like them. It makes the edges curl. So I peeled the ears off a gill and drew ears on using a sharpie. There may have been a tiny bit of running but it seems to have held up. Guess this is another thing to experiment on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedyarb Posted September 5, 2013 Report Share Posted September 5, 2013 Gst does not like sharpies! I use the micron pens from hobby lobby, like I posted earlier! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Moose Baits Posted September 5, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2013 Gst does not like sharpies! I use the micron pens from hobby lobby, like I posted earlier! oh that's right! Gives me a reason to go to HL or Michael's I need more beads any way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Posted September 5, 2013 Report Share Posted September 5, 2013 Did a bit more research...A-Macs product is also 25% solids...If I had to choose between what I bought or the Eagle Supreme,I think the Supreme maybe a better product for our use....Just my two cents..Nathan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougarftd Posted September 5, 2013 Report Share Posted September 5, 2013 Gst does not like sharpies! I use the micron pens from hobby lobby, like I posted earlier!I spray a quick coat of createx gloss coat over the sharpie and heat set. that will protect it from the GST Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrubs Posted September 5, 2013 Report Share Posted September 5, 2013 Did a bit more research...A-Macs product is also 25% solids...If I had to choose between what I bought or the Eagle Supreme,I think the Supreme maybe a better product for our use....Just my two cents..Nathan I was looking at the "ship to store" option on HomeDepot just now. Screwy but they won't ship A-Macs product to my store but no problems with shipping yours. bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-Mac Posted September 6, 2013 Report Share Posted September 6, 2013 I wouldn't kill yourselves trying to get the supreme just yet. I've only conducted 1 test! I did run into issues on one crankbait the other day when trying to rush from painting to clearing, but isn't this always the case? Nevertheless, on the lures that came out fine (which I allowed a solid 24 hours of paint drying) the finish looks incredible. I hope to throw a few this weekend in my top 6 tourney. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrubs Posted September 6, 2013 Report Share Posted September 6, 2013 Without drawing a flurry of "use the search button" replies are there any other proven top coats that don't require turning? bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Posted September 6, 2013 Report Share Posted September 6, 2013 Bill, Dick Nites....dip and hang..but there are the storage issues....Nathan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougarftd Posted September 6, 2013 Report Share Posted September 6, 2013 Auto clears...but you have ventilation issues 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedyarb Posted September 6, 2013 Report Share Posted September 6, 2013 Without drawing a flurry of "use the search button" replies are there any other proven top coats that don't require turning? bill dick nites, solarez Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobP Posted September 6, 2013 Report Share Posted September 6, 2013 Specifically Dick Nite S81 moisture cured urethane. He sells other finishes that are not as durable. You can find other vendors for moisture cured urethane on the web but the Dick Nite formulation is superior for crankbaits IMO. Read up on it before you jump, it's a bear to store without "going off" and it ain't cheap - but it's good. For Dick Nite, use this for a TU discount: http://www.dicknite.com/TU_Lander.htm The delivered cost is around $50 per quart The Solarez is a UV cured polyester resin like that used on surfboards. It's relatively new to TU'ers so do a search and read up on it before you decide. Like everything, it has pluses and minuses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhersh Posted September 6, 2013 Report Share Posted September 6, 2013 I wouldn't kill yourselves trying to get the supreme just yet. I've only conducted 1 test! I did run into issues on one crankbait the other day when trying to rush from painting to clearing, but isn't this always the case? Nevertheless, on the lures that came out fine (which I allowed a solid 24 hours of paint drying) the finish looks incredible. I hope to throw a few this weekend in my top 6 tourney. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...