YosemiteSam Posted June 13, 2004 Report Share Posted June 13, 2004 What woods are y'all using for sinking hardbaits? I need a range of info, like what wood sinks fast, and what sinks slowly, and what just suspends; and I hope to achieve this whithout adding lead to the lure. What do you use? Do you weight it? -Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiverMan Posted June 14, 2004 Report Share Posted June 14, 2004 Sam, All of this info you can find by using the search option at the top of this page. That being said, I like to use Poplar as a light wood, it's very clean and the grain is generally even. You can buy Poplar in convenient sizes at Home Depot. For a heavier wood I like mahogany, it's hard but still capable of being shaped. This wood I have to buy at the lumber mill. If you are wanting to build a sinking lure try the mahogany, try poplar or cedar for floating versions. There are many other options of course but these are my favorites. There's lots of info in the search section on how to weight the various lures you may be interested in building. Take your time, it's far better to have one good lure than 5 that won't run. With time your speed will pick up considerably. Jed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YosemiteSam Posted June 14, 2004 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2004 okay, so I have my answer, generally. I would call this the "Immaculate Post" on woods: HI THERE HERE IS A LIST OF WOODS AND THERE WEIGHTS THE BIGGER THE NUMBER THE MORE DENSE,FOR CRANKS PINE,CEDAR ARE GOOD CHOICE,GLIDERS MAPLE,BIRCH,BEECH THE OPTIONS ARE MANY I HOPE THIS MAY HELP GREEN AIRDRY 1)ALDER,RED 46 28 2)ASH,BLACK 52 34 3)ASH COMMERCIAL WHITE 48 41 4)ASH,OREGON 46 41 5)ASPEN 43 26 6)BASSWOOD 42 26 7)BEECH 54 45 8)BIRCH 57 44 9)BIRCH,PAPER 50 38 10)CEDAR,ALASKA 36 31 11)CEDAR,EASTERN RED 37 33 12)CEDAR,NORTHERN WHITE 28 22 13)CEDAR,SOUTHER WHITE 26 23 14)CEDAR,WESTERN RED 27 23 15)CHERRY,BLACK 45 35 16)CHESTNUT 55 30 17)COTTONWOOD EASTERN 49 28 18)COTTOWOOD,NORTHERN BLACK 46 24 19)CYPRESS,SOUTHERN 51 32 20)DOUGLAS FIR,COAST REGION 38 34 21)DOUGLAS FIR ROCKY MTN 35 30 22)ELM,AMERICAN 54 35 23)ELM,ROCK 53 44 24)ELM,SLIPPERY 56 37 25)FIR.BALSAM 45 25 26)FIR,COMMERCIAL WHITE 46 27 27)GUM,BLACK 45 35 28)GUM,RED 50 34 29)HEMLOCK EASTERN 50 28 30)HEMLOCK,WESTERN 41 29 31)HICORY,PECAN 62 45 32)HICORY,TRUE 63 51 33)HONEY LOCUST 61 34)LARCH,WESTERN 48 36 35)LOCUST,BLACK 58 48 36)MAPLE,BIGLEAF 47 34 37)MAPLE,BLACK 54 40 38)MAPLE,RED 50 38 39)MAPLE,SILVER 45 33 40)MAPLE,SUGAR 56 44 41)OAK,RED 64 44 42)OAK,WHITE 63 47 43)PINE,LODGEPOLE 39 29 44)PINE,NORTHERNWHITE 36 25 45)PINE,NORWAY 42 34 46)PINE,PONDEROSA 45 28 47)PINE,SOUTHERN YELLOW,LOBLOOY 53 36 48)PINE,SOUTHERN YELLOW,LONGLEAF 55 41 49)PINE,SOUTHERN YELLOW,SHORTLEAF 52 36 50)PINE,SUGAR 52 25 51)PINE,WESTERN WHITE 35 27 52)POPLAR,YELLOW 38 28 53)REDWOOD 50 28 54)SPRUCE,EASTERN 34 28 55)SPRUCE,ENGELMANN 39 23 56)SPRUCE,SITKA 33 28 57)SYCAMORE 52 34 58)TAMARACK 47 37 59)WALNUT 58 38 THIS IS BY ALL MEANS NOT AN ALL INCLUSIVE LIST BUT CAN BE USED AS A GUIDELINE,THE WOODS ALSO REACT DIFFERENTLY TO POWER TOOLS,DRILLS,SAWS ETC... AGAIN JUST GUIDELINES,MY EXERIANCE AS SHOWN THAT PINE,CEDAR ARE GOOD FOR CRANKS,SURFACE AND SOEM JERKBAITS AND BIRCH,MAPLE ARE GREAT FOR GLIDERS,I HEAR THAT THE GUY MAKING AMMA BAMAS IS USING BASSWOOD? THE AMMA BAMMA IS A AWESOME GLIDER,EXPERIMENT AND FISH!!!! THE BAITS SAWESOX AKA LUNGEBOB Back to top SAWESOX Joined: 17 Dec 2003 Posts: 7 Location: IL Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2003 10:01 pm Post subject: ALL CAPS -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sorry About the caps,its the way i type Back to top SAWESOX Joined: 17 Dec 2003 Posts: 7 Location: IL Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2003 11:49 pm Post subject: WOOD WEIGHT CLARIFICATION -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I just wanted to clarify my post the weights are broken into two columns one for as green (i suppose fresh cut) and the other is as dried. as you can see the heavy one should be more dense,they all have unique properties though SAWESOX AKA LUNGEBOB Back to top boatnik13 Joined: 16 Nov 2003 Posts: 102 Location: South Central Pa. Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2003 8:42 am Post subject: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Here are some properties you left out. Pine for example> you have white and yellow basicly! Yellow holds a high number of sap and sap at this level makes a lure less dense and heavy VS white pine that has min.sap and med air voids, more dense , lighter in wt. making it a better solid wood for lures but for experimenting > yellow is cheaper for this type of work such as broom stick shapes.This makes white pine a prime choice of MED.grade wood. ... Balsa is high in air voids making it a good flaoting lure choice but soft and easy to dent or damage and a super low density/no sap. Maple is a med.dense ,low sap but has noticeable wood grain .Red oak (dowel) is heavy,dense,cource wood,low sap low air,can take a dent and is good for sinking or sub surface lures. So your looking at properties of AIR VOIDS,SAP COUNT, DENSITY,COURSENESS,GRAIN.each property if used right can save time and money for the type of lure your building not to mention many woods are not very available and one more note> bass wood is not worth the $ that they want VS other great wood at the lumberyards. Back to top RiverMan Joined: 27 Mar 2003 Posts: 454 Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2004 9:28 pm Post subject: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ok, was doing some searching and came across this post.....took me awhile to find it. Anyway I am bringing it back to life as I am trying to find a wood for making over-sized baits. I am currently using a very dry cedar and 3/4 inch wide 8 inch piece of this stuff takes literally 5 ounces of lead to get it to sit right, it's unbelievable! I want something that will take 2 or 3 ounces, is this possible? I can't buy maple here, is there another choice that would be as good? I want the lure to float but to dive shallow upon retrieve. Thx! Jed Back to top TBait Joined: 03 Mar 2004 Posts: 22 Location: Cincinnati,Ohio Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2004 10:31 pm Post subject: different wood -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Try Bubinga.....this stuff is twice as hard as oak. It should stand up to any Peacock bass out there. Back to top MagicBob Joined: 26 Dec 2003 Posts: 45 Location: Lafayette, CA Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2004 2:16 am Post subject: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I've had good results making big lures with poplar. Easy to work with, a little denser than basswood and not so pricey. Still needs lead, and that's not neccessarily a bad thing as the lead helps the lure ride upright if you place it all towards the bottom. _________________ MagicBob Back to top RiverMan Joined: 27 Mar 2003 Posts: 454 Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2004 7:43 am Post subject: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I bought a small piece of hemlock to try this eve, stuff is much heavier than the cedar I have been using but still able to work with it. The wood definitely requires far less lead but I wasn't real happy with the action of this wood in comparison to the cedar. I wanted to try Poplar as suggested but of course was unable to get any without ordering it in. Will keep experimenting. Jed Back to top Display posts from previous: All Posts1 Day7 Days2 Weeks1 Month3 Months6 Months1 Year Oldest FirstNewest First Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
