Seeking 56 Posted September 26, 2013 Report Share Posted September 26, 2013 Don't skimp on primer, get a good quality one, acrylic preferably.... This lure has caught several muskies and the wood is yet to be exposed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffond Posted September 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 26, 2013 looks like it could use a fresh coat of D2T LOL nice lure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking 56 Posted September 26, 2013 Report Share Posted September 26, 2013 Thanks. Nah, the last I time I thinkered with a lure it never caught fish again. This was my 4th generation glider that someone had bought. He loved it so much he had me build another. Curious to see what it looks like now. Not particularly a very user friendly glider by any means...designed to fish drop offs and open water. Sinks real fast. Much to my amazement, this fellow was contacting fish with a subsurface walk the dog retrieve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrubs Posted September 26, 2013 Report Share Posted September 26, 2013 Thanks Ben. As a newbie any and all hints & tips appreciated. bill 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffond Posted September 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 26, 2013 (edited) Seeking do you have a template for that and what kind of wood is that made from? I'm on a glider making kick now and I have about 4 more feet of 1/4" aspen left (use two pieces to make thru wire) I'm going to make a few different designs just to see what I like the best. Edited September 26, 2013 by Griffond Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking 56 Posted September 26, 2013 Report Share Posted September 26, 2013 Griffond, the wood I used for this one was Brazilian Cherry aka Jatoba. You can use the pic of the " accidental crackle" as a template I posted in the gallery a while ago. This one was 1'' thick and 9'' long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayburnGuy Posted September 26, 2013 Report Share Posted September 26, 2013 "several muskies"??.............You musky guys sure are hard on your equipment Seeking 56. It must be a blast to hook up with one of those toothy critters. Ben 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diemai Posted September 26, 2013 Report Share Posted September 26, 2013 One word of caution about using rattle can primers. Or any mismatched components as far as that goes. You need to think of painting lures as a system of individual products brought together to perform a task. From base to top coat they all have to be compatible with each other to avoid disasters. It sucks to see a paint job you've worked on for an hour or more turn into a bunch of wrinkles in just a few seconds as you apply your top coat. Don't ask me how I know. You can run into problems mixing and matching sealers, paint, top coats, etc. Sometimes the solvents in one product don't play nice with the solvents in something else and this can lead to problems. I say this because most of the rattle can primers, paints and clear coats that I'm aware of have solvents in them. Now they usually have no problem with acrylic paints, but can react with a top coat that uses a different solvent. Now if your using an epoxy you shouldn't have any trouble as epoxies are usually inert. You guys may be fully aware of this, but I just wanted to mention it again to hopefully save someone a lot of aggravation. Ben .................been there , ....done that , ...........an entire dozen of new lures had to be sanded "nude" again and repainted ! Happened several years ago , ......since I haven't touched the rattlecans again ! @ Seeking 56 .............they've really chewed on this one , .......great lure ! Cheers , Dieter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffond Posted September 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 26, 2013 Hmm might have to go buy some 1/2" poplar and try to make that lure can never have to many muskie lures and I really hate buying them there to dang expensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking 56 Posted September 28, 2013 Report Share Posted September 28, 2013 Thanks Diemai! Ben, you have no idea! LoL! Honestly, really? Having problems with rattle cans? I don't get it.... IMO It's probably the best base coat on plastics, you get a better bond and you're eliminating the priming stage. s56 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayburnGuy Posted September 28, 2013 Report Share Posted September 28, 2013 Didn't mean to make it sound like rattle cans weren't a good option for painting lures Seeking56. Only that some of them can react with certain top coats. I painted a lure that had one layer of the paint scheme shot from a Dupli-Color rattle can. The rest was Createx colors. The Dupli-Color and the Createx had absolutely no adverse reactions with each other and everything was fully cured before applying the top coat. When I dipped it into the DN S81 top coat the paint started wrinkling before I could get it out of the dipping jar. I'd never had this problem with any of the Createx line of paints so it had to be something in the rattle can paint that reacted with the solvents in the DN. Since then I've painted the same color scheme using the same paints (Dupli-Color and Createx) and used epoxy for the top coat. No problems doing it this way. That's why I say it had to be some type of reaction between the solvents in the Dupli-Color and the DN S81. Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassguy Posted September 28, 2013 Report Share Posted September 28, 2013 "several muskies"??.............You musky guys sure are hard on your equipment Seeking 56. It must be a blast to hook up with one of those toothy critters. Ben I have a friend that caught a few, and he said it was like hooking a moving freight train! Jerry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking 56 Posted September 28, 2013 Report Share Posted September 28, 2013 Ok good to know. What about substituting DN for E-tex? If and when I decide to go the airbrush route I was thinking about using E-tex. s56 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking 56 Posted September 28, 2013 Report Share Posted September 28, 2013 bassguy, I hooked on to one trolling the Larry yesterday, never saw it 'cause it straightened a 5/0 3x hook.........Anybody have a source for Barbarian 6x 5/0 and up trebles? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diemai Posted September 28, 2013 Report Share Posted September 28, 2013 Didn't mean to make it sound like rattle cans weren't a good option for painting lures Seeking56. Only that some of them can react with certain top coats. I painted a lure that had one layer of the paint scheme shot from a Dupli-Color rattle can. The rest was Createx colors. The Dupli-Color and the Createx had absolutely no adverse reactions with each other and everything was fully cured before applying the top coat. When I dipped it into the DN S81 top coat the paint started wrinkling before I could get it out of the dipping jar. I'd never had this problem with any of the Createx line of paints so it had to be something in the rattle can paint that reacted with the solvents in the DN. Since then I've painted the same color scheme using the same paints (Dupli-Color and Createx) and used epoxy for the top coat. No problems doing it this way. That's why I say it had to be some type of reaction between the solvents in the Dupli-Color and the DN S81. Ben I even messed up in wrinkles using spray paints(both matte , both solvent-based)of two different brands sold by two different local tool mart chains , ......and this was the last straw to break the camel's back for me , ....slower , but happy with the hand brush now ! Cheers , Dieter 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassguy Posted September 28, 2013 Report Share Posted September 28, 2013 bassguy, I hooked on to one trolling the Larry yesterday, never saw it 'cause it straightened a 5/0 3x hook.........Anybody have a source for Barbarian 6x 5/0 and up trebles? Seeking 56, didn't find the Barbarians, but I did find a VMC 8527PS Permasteel 6X in a 5/0. It looks similar and it is a VMC. It was on njtackle.com, I hope this helps... Jerry 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayburnGuy Posted September 28, 2013 Report Share Posted September 28, 2013 (edited) Ok good to know. What about substituting DN for E-tex? If and when I decide to go the airbrush route I was thinking about using E-tex. s56 I can't really give you an educated answer on the E-tex S56 because I've never fished for muskies. I know I've read a good bit about the D2T having a tendency to crack from the teeth of a musky. It probably has to do with the D2T being a harder, and therefore more brittle, epoxy than E-tex and the pointed teeth delivering a concentrated force in such a small area. I've read that a lot of the musky guys use E-tex for that very reason. It has some give to it so it doesn't form a hard shell like D2T. And being an epoxy E-tex doesn't have the same issues with some of the solvent based top coats so it shouldn't react with rattle can paints. I know this doesn't give you a definite answer, but not having fished for musky it's the best I can do. Didn't your screen name used to be Seeking 54? If that was you then a big congrats on your catch. Ben Edited September 28, 2013 by RayburnGuy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking 56 Posted September 28, 2013 Report Share Posted September 28, 2013 Much appreciated Jerry, going to check that link. Yeah, that was me Ben. Thanks guys. s56 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrubs Posted September 30, 2013 Report Share Posted September 30, 2013 Finished brush painting a couple of practice blanks with Createx on one and Jo Sonjia on the other. We'll see how the fish like em. http://www.tackleunderground.com/community/index.php?/gallery/image/11975-beginning-hand-painting/ bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diemai Posted September 30, 2013 Report Share Posted September 30, 2013 Finished brush painting a couple of practice blanks with Createx on one and Jo Sonjia on the other. We'll see how the fish like em. http://www.tackleunderground.com/community/index.php?/gallery/image/11975-beginning-hand-painting/ bill That perch's looks came out pretty much natural , .....nice job ! Greetz , Dieter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted September 30, 2013 Report Share Posted September 30, 2013 Very nice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrhopkins Posted September 30, 2013 Report Share Posted September 30, 2013 my on brushes, it is money well spent for good quality brushes. google 'Royal' deerfoot brushes. I use these and have found them to give me the best results. a few bucks for some brushes is a drop in the bucket if you are going to get into bait making . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrubs Posted September 30, 2013 Report Share Posted September 30, 2013 Thanks, I was aiming for a generic perch look. I was pleased with the orange wash that settled into the scale pattern. I've started collecting pics of lures that I thought could be acheived via brush. Another 100 or so tries and I'll have my own style. bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swohio Posted October 6, 2013 Report Share Posted October 6, 2013 It says that you are provided a blank which you can carve. Is it ready to assemble and paint or does it need to be carved first? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BJBarron Posted October 6, 2013 Report Share Posted October 6, 2013 Those look great!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
