dlaery Posted September 20, 2013 Report Share Posted September 20, 2013 such heavy items that the paint chips and cuts the line Do you think this is a valid comment? This is reference to baked on powder paint on eyelets of jigs weighing more that 2 oz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueBird Posted September 20, 2013 Report Share Posted September 20, 2013 Call me dumb if you want, but I dont get what you are asking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlaery Posted September 20, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2013 Sorry for not being more clear, If you could read my mind, you wouldn't have so much trouble. Boy that's a scary thought. I powder paint a jig. It has powder paint on the eyelet. This person wants the powder paint removed from the eyelet because.. the jigs are such heavy items that the line chips the paint on the eyelets and then cuts the line . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueBird Posted September 20, 2013 Report Share Posted September 20, 2013 I would think that the tension from a 5 pound bass would be more of a hazard than the weight of the jig itself. If this were true then everytime you caught a fish on a powder painted jig it would cut the line. Maybe you are getting your jig to hot and putting to much paint on it. But just the theory of the jig being to heavy and the friction of the paint on the eyelet cutting the line doesnt make sense to me. Could be wrong but dont think so Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlaery Posted September 20, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2013 This is a customer's idea only.They have made a request for me to remove the paint from the eyelet because they think this will sut the line if I don't remove the powder paint form the eyelet. I have powder painted jigs for 12 years and have never had a complaint about this, so that is why I was wondering if anyone else had had any feedback on this. I would think, as many people on here that powder paint that if this was a valid problem, someone would have said so at one time or another. I didn't mention this but this is for salt water jigs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basseducer Posted September 20, 2013 Report Share Posted September 20, 2013 David, I have never had such a problem or even a concern from customers. Having said that, I do have a couple of customers that don't want powder in the eye because it closes it too mich. For those guys I tape off the eye with green high temp tape befor I paint and don't get paint in the to begin with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlaery Posted September 20, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2013 thanks, I don't think this is a valid concern, but wanted to see what other people think. But if it is a problem I want to correct it. I have made lots of 1-1/2 oz and smaller salt water jigs and have never heard of this being a problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBehr Posted September 20, 2013 Report Share Posted September 20, 2013 What is the name of the "green high temperature paint"? I gotta get some of that! And...I have always wondered if a painted eye on jig could cut the line...but in 40 years of fishing I can't ever remember it happening...so I figured it was no! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlaery Posted September 20, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2013 I don't know of this ever happening, this was just his idea. and it Green High Temp Tape not paint Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBehr Posted September 20, 2013 Report Share Posted September 20, 2013 Ohh....sorry...please forgive my mis-type... Green High Temperature TAPE ..... Which I assume is 3M 851ST....but I can't find it for sale anywhere (unless I want to buy a case!). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadman Posted September 20, 2013 Report Share Posted September 20, 2013 David, I have never heard of anything like this either or it being a concern. Now with that said, If the eyelid of the poured jig has raised edges, and there are some burrs from the mold, powder paint will accentuate a sharper edge. Powder paint does not like sharp corners, and will make them sharper if the burr is not filed. I had this happen to a mold I had, but it was on the bottom of the jig and not an eyelid. For some reason the mold had an imperfection in it and every time I poured a jig, I would get a sharp protuberance on the jig. I remedied this by running a file over the protuberance on each poured jig. Once the jig was smooth the paint followed course. Are you getting sharp edges around the eye socket? If not then it won't be an issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlaery Posted September 20, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2013 Ohh....sorry...please forgive my mis-type... Green High Temperature TAPE ..... Which I assume is 3M 851ST....but I can't find it for sale anywhere (unless I want to buy a case!). I get mine from McMasterCarr 1 roll at a time. http://www.mcmaster.com/#catalog/119/3428/=oldvob I think Caswell Plating has it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlaery Posted September 20, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2013 David, I have never heard of anything like this either or it being a concern. Now with that said, If the eyelid of the poured jig has raised edges, and there are some burrs from the mold, powder paint will accentuate a sharper edge. Powder paint does not like sharp corners, and will make them sharper if the burr is not filed. I had this happen to a mold I had, but it was on the bottom of the jig and not an eyelid. For some reason the mold had an imperfection in it and every time I poured a jig, I would get a sharp protuberance on the jig. I remedied this by running a file over the protuberance on each poured jig. Once the jig was smooth the paint followed course. Are you getting sharp edges around the eye socket? If not then it won't be an issue. No, it's nothing like that unless he has had trouble from another supplier. He is asking me to do this and I am reluctant because it won't be easy masking off the eyelet and make it look good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bass100 Posted September 20, 2013 Report Share Posted September 20, 2013 I only go up to 1 oz jigs but it has never been an issue. You can get high temp tape and dots for powder coating from here http://www.powderbuythepound.com/Masking_Tape_-and-_Dots/ I have tape and dots and I don't use either because it is a pain as far as production goes. If you do it for the customer charge a bit more per jig or just tell them you can't do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy1976 Posted September 21, 2013 Report Share Posted September 21, 2013 I've sold so many 1000s of big jigs it's not funny. I do them for companies stores and individuals. No one has ever complained. I would think if you bake them the paint would never chip in or around the eyes. I do big butterfly style jigs to and never a complaint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasilofchrisn Posted September 21, 2013 Report Share Posted September 21, 2013 I do jigs up to 40 oz and have never had a problem. On the bigger jigs with #2 & #3 eyelets I do clean the paint off the eyelets before curing though. I have a pair of cheap small wire cutters and it only takes a second or two per eye to clean them out. On my small icefishing jigs I just hold the hook eye with forceps and dip. The forceps keep the paint out of the eye. I just cant see powder paint itself cutting your fishing line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLT Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 Do rigs up to 8 oz., never had a complaint or seen an issue. Like Kasil wrote, cut it off before you cure. That being said, I have found many hook eyes that had a burr on them. The powder paint covers that and smooths it out IMO. Suggest that to them, see what they say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toadfrog Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 Like andy1976 I've made a lot of monster jigs . I got started cleaning eyes before baking the jig out a long time ago. Mainly because crappie fishermen whine the loudest over paint of any kind being in a jig eye . Just go ahead and clean them and if you don't want to . Then buy up a lot of cheese to go with their whine . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlaery Posted September 22, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 thanks for the comments! I have thought the same thing, so you guys have confirmed it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gone2long Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 I was always concerned about cured paint on the eye and then busting it open with a hot paper clip or a cheap eye buster it does leave a sharp edge on the eye maybe that's what their concerned about? Can't say I ever had a problem that I could associate with it though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...