Fast Freddy Posted September 26, 2013 Report Share Posted September 26, 2013 Hello. What is the recommended primer for metal spoons? I am currently using createx water based paints clearing with either DN or automotive clear. Any/all advise appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fast Freddy Posted September 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 26, 2013 I have contacted createx and was told to scuff the spoon, prime with DTM primer then use auto air sealer, I'm just not sure what type/brand of DTM primer they are referring to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravenlures Posted September 26, 2013 Report Share Posted September 26, 2013 Just was wondering what this was. DTM Bonding PrimerDTM BONDING PRIMER is a waterborne, acrylic emulsion, adhesion-promoting bonding primer. Designed to be part of a system for coating pre-finished metal siding (such as those containing Fluorocarbon [Kynar], Silicone Polyester, or Polyester Polymers), or other hard, slick, glossy surfaces, and previously painted surfaces. Suitable for use in USDA inspected facilities. Must be topcoated Recommended UsageFor use over prepared: Pre-Finished Siding such as: Fluorocarbons (Kynar) Polyester Polymers Silicone Polyester Acceptable for use in high performance architectural applications. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fast Freddy Posted September 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 26, 2013 Geez.. Sounds pretty serious for a little ole fishing spoon. I thought DTM was an acronym for Direct To Metal primer. Must be something more user friendly/ practical. I did send createx another e- mail, waiting for response. What type of primer are you using?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravenlures Posted September 26, 2013 Report Share Posted September 26, 2013 I don't do many spoons, was just wondering what it was. When I do spoons I get pre-painted white and paint what I want too and clear coat. Wayne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffond Posted September 26, 2013 Report Share Posted September 26, 2013 The last time I did a bunch of spoons with the kids I went to the auto store and bought a can of auto primer and auto clear coat and just used spray can with painters tape for details I've looked thru almost all my photos and can't seem to find them if I do I'll repost here so you can see what I am talking about it worked really well thou kids had fun doing it as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayburnGuy Posted September 26, 2013 Report Share Posted September 26, 2013 If you have an auto body repair shop close to your location you might ask them what type of "adhesion promoter" they recommend. Ben 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffond Posted September 26, 2013 Report Share Posted September 26, 2013 Good point Ray I didn't even think to ask what kind of spoons he was trying to paint... steel or brass makes a bit of difference. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fast Freddy Posted September 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2013 Hi Ben. I went to the local auto paint supplier. He recommended an etching primer follwed by a sealer..Then business as usual. Createx told me that their auto air line is compatable with just about any primer. Not trying to beat a dead horse, just been doing some experimenting. I find it interesting that most discussions tend to focus on clearcoat and clear coat issues, however, without a good foundation ( prep, prime, base) any/all clearcoats will fail.. Thanks guys for the input. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayburnGuy Posted September 27, 2013 Report Share Posted September 27, 2013 (edited) Freddy, Glad you found a solution to your question. As for the numerous discussions on top coats they are probably due to several things. One, it's the first thing you notice about a lure. Others are ease of application, durability, UV protection, etc. etc. Pretty much everyone, at one time or another, has been guilty of looking for the holy grail of top coats. Something that you could drag the bait through, have it turn out crystal clear and fully cured in a matter of seconds with no runs, drips or sags that remains bubble free while being durable enough to withstand a direct hit from a 500 megaton nuclear weapon. So far none of us has found it. Not anyone that's willing to talk anyway. Ben Edited September 27, 2013 by RayburnGuy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fast Freddy Posted September 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2013 Yeah, I'm a scientist at heart, always tinkering with stuff.. But believe me, when I find the perfect combo of prime/paint/clear with these little spoons,believe me in sticken with it.. Thanks.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffond Posted September 28, 2013 Report Share Posted September 28, 2013 Well if I remember correctly DareDevil brand spoons are powder coated that's why there finish lasts so long on them I wouldn't have a clue thou how to do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...