jtmoney Posted September 26, 2013 Report Share Posted September 26, 2013 Hey guys, not sure if any of you are big on the big swimbaits for largmouths like the deps line, but i have a Q. So these lures use a rubber/silicone material over the wood, i started custom painting them with createx. Paint seems to adhere fine, but i know if i clear coat it i run the rusk of the clear cracking, espescially in the tail section. I was thinking of not clear coating them but im not sure if the paint will remain intact after i heat cure it. I swim these in open water so not worried about thr paint getting too beat, just wondering if this is a good idea, or what you guys wuld recomend. Thanks, Jeff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted September 27, 2013 Report Share Posted September 27, 2013 Jeff, I'd suggest you post this question on the soft bait forum, and address it specifically to Frank. He is a guru when it comes to painting soft plastics. I know Butch Brown, so I'll ask him if he knows what they use the next time I see him. If I remember....Hahaha CRS strikes again! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtmoney Posted September 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2013 Thanks mark! Ive got a couple of butchs tuned 250's, they get bit to say the least Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayburnGuy Posted September 27, 2013 Report Share Posted September 27, 2013 Could you paint the lure, apply a top coat and then dip it in clear plastic? Not exactly sure what your trying to achieve. A soft texture in the fishes mouth? Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtmoney Posted September 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2013 Ide like to protect the paint as well as possible but want to minimize the possibility of the clear cracking. Just looking for other options really. I cant dip it in a plastic as i dont want to seal the skin to the wood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayburnGuy Posted September 27, 2013 Report Share Posted September 27, 2013 I'm not understanding the purpose of the rubber/silicone over the wood. Is that what they're using as a sealer to protect the wood? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtmoney Posted September 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2013 (edited) This should explain it better. This is the oe paint, i stripped it so it was 100% clear and built up my paint from there. Im painting the outter skin, not directly over the flash foil Edited September 27, 2013 by jtmoney Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayburnGuy Posted September 27, 2013 Report Share Posted September 27, 2013 And your wanting the foil to show through the outer skin? The only thing that comes to mind that has some flex in it would be something like the Etex epoxies. They cure to a much more flexible state than something like D2T. Ben p.s. nice paint job 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeeter Posted September 27, 2013 Report Share Posted September 27, 2013 I would try painting the lure with lacquer paint and not worry about clear coating it. Lacquer sticks to anything and is pretty darn tough. Skeeter 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted September 27, 2013 Report Share Posted September 27, 2013 The thing that's unique about the Deps lure is the soft outer skin, according to Butch. It feels like a real trout when bitten, and it's almost silent, since any contacting surfaces are soft rubber. He said he used to fish Huddlestons, because they were the most natural swimbait out there, but switched to Deps for the soft skin and large S swimming action. What kind of a paint scheme are you trying to achieve? I'm not sure you'll be able to both paint the soft skin and have the foil show through, because the soft skin is already somewhat opaque. At least, that's how it looks in your photos. I know solvent based sharpies would color the skin, but they may bleed. Since the skin is truly rubber, and not the soft plastisol we use for worms, I think, at the risk of messing up your outer skin, you're probably going to have to experiment with different paints to see what works. Just remember, having to touch up the bait after each trip isn't a bad thing, if the paint is coming off because you're getting bit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtmoney Posted September 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2013 Thanks for all the imput guys! I might have to start spraying some laquers, but you bring up a good point with being ok with touching up paint if its getting bit. Gonna try em out without clear this weekend, see how they hold up. The factory paint job (pictured above) is pretty transparent, the flash really show through. Heres a couple pics of 2 paint schemes ive laid down, both are trout patterns im playing with. Awefull nerve racking screwing with $175 baits!!! Hope these colors get bit. Any feedback is appreciated! Opaques on top and bottom, blended to transparents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeeter Posted September 27, 2013 Report Share Posted September 27, 2013 Nice..... Skeeter 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-Mac Posted September 27, 2013 Report Share Posted September 27, 2013 I tried to mimic one (based on a lure my buddy bought). I spent a lot of time taking measurements and made one out of pvc. Mine even sat in the water the same. However, mine didn't work worth a dang. I tried making a portion of the tail section from melted plastics. I'm still messing with it, but maybe I'm not hitting the resin densities right. Anyway, I did do a little touch up paint on his lure too. I just shot createx and heat set it good. From what I hear its still holding up. I was also afraid to try any drastic clear coatings since it wasn't my lure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s.lillywhite Posted April 23, 2014 Report Share Posted April 23, 2014 I tried to mimic one (based on a lure my buddy bought). I spent a lot of time taking measurements and made one out of pvc. Mine even sat in the water the same. However, mine didn't work worth a dang. I tried making a portion of the tail section from melted plastics. I'm still messing with it, but maybe I'm not hitting the resin densities right. It kind of looks like you might have made the front portion too long compared to the back, based on pictures I have seen of the deps 250. Where did you ballast it? I have been thinking about doing a bait very similar to the 250 for my first swimbait build. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAWGFAN Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 I understand that it takes a specific type of paint for soft plastics. I never got into the swimbaits, so I never looked into it. I did buy some Spike-it worm paint once. I called their tech people and asked could I airbrush it. They said it would spider web out of the gun, but that they do have a product that can be sprayed. That might be a good place to start. The guy I talked to seemed very knowledgeable and willing to help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stretcher66 Posted April 25, 2014 Report Share Posted April 25, 2014 one name comes to mins.... Lee Butz. here is a video i hope helps ya. what part of the central coast you from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
