CarverGLX Posted October 7, 2013 Report Share Posted October 7, 2013 Hello all, I am currently considering buying a new mold for buzzbaits. I have in the past used a fish head mold with sunken eyes that I modified to take a buzzbait hook and wire by cutting a grove in the mold to hold the hook perpendicular to the cavities. This creates a planing head with eyes on the top and bottom. What I want to do is increase the planing activity of the buzzbait to be able to slow it further and get it to run farther off line. I am considering modifying one of 3 molds: Gravedigger Wobble jig Swm jig ...to take a buzz hook, wire, and skirt collar to make the bait. Any of these will be turned so the leading edge comes up like a ski. Which would be best/easiest? Other ideas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smalljaw Posted October 7, 2013 Report Share Posted October 7, 2013 I don't think any of those would work to well, what is wrong with the keel buzzbait mold? it has a flat head with a keel and I got to fish a buzzbait made with it and I was pretty impressed with the way it ran. What I liked is that every buzzbait wants to move either right or left depending on blade direction unless you make a tandem buzz with counter rotating blades but the keel seemed to keep it from moving and it also allowed for a slow retrieve which is what really made me like it. Any bait that you can retrieve at a moderate speed with a single delta blade is what I consider a good buzzbait that the keel mold makes a good bait. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarverGLX Posted October 7, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2013 Thanks for the reply. I thought about that mold and the reason I didn't want it was because I was afraid it would run straight. I want a buzz that will run as slow and as far off line as possible. To each his own I guess. I fish a lot at night and the benefit of a bait that runs off line to me is great. You can't see what is ahead all that well and a bait that will run closer or into the cover without having to throw close to the overhanging trees is a big plus for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted October 7, 2013 Report Share Posted October 7, 2013 Have you ever tried putting an angled keel on the bottom of the flat face with a hot glue gun? It won't hold up too long, but it should give you a chance to figure out what works for you without buying another mold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarverGLX Posted October 7, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2013 Thanks mark. Thats a great idea. I could at least get an idea of the surface area and angle needed to get the proper resistance. Probably try that using circuit board or lexan. There have been baits before that used this concept. The "ski-buzz" (closest mold is the wobble head jig) is one that comes to mind (can't think of maker). Reaction innovations used an elongated head (like swm jig) in the "squeaky dolphin" but it didn't have a planing angle but did ride higher due to length and a unique blade setup. I've thought about modifying whatever I end up with to include a brass bead half molded into the head on the wire to use as a "ticker" like the RI. Lots of possibilities. Just want it right the first time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarverGLX Posted October 7, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2013 Reaction innovations Squeaky dolphin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarverGLX Posted October 7, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2013 Also found something similar on bassboattalk.com's watering hole forum on a thread titled #1 buzzbait. A guy talked about something similar to what I'm looking for in a snagless Sally inline configuration. Said it was very slow but it has a plastic blade too... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarverGLX Posted October 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2013 Update: Applied hammer to what I currently use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toadfrog Posted October 12, 2013 Report Share Posted October 12, 2013 Got a feeling that indiana blade is just going to flop around back there because it's likely to break spin at the surface . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smalljaw Posted October 12, 2013 Report Share Posted October 12, 2013 Got a feeling that indiana blade is just going to flop around back there because it's likely to break spin at the surface . TF, I've seen that before, that is supposed to catch the wake and spin while coming out and flipping around every once in awhile, I forget which manufacturer has baits like that but I did see them on a video or T.V. show, my brain gets stuff mixed up every now and again and I can't remember everything but I did see those being used because I thought the same thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarverGLX Posted October 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2013 Results: Can get bait 15 feet or so off-line. Very slow. Indiana helps when slowed. High speed- Indiana flops around (best I can tell from disturbance). Bait tracks straighter at low speed, farther off at high speed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
