the-bass-catcher Posted June 16, 2004 Report Share Posted June 16, 2004 First off, Its great to be back after a grueling school schedule. A lot of really cool things, such as the photofinishing process, have come up since my last visit. I was wondering if anyone had tried put some of those Createx Chameleon colors over the photo lures...it could give some glimmer to the lure and make it look a little more like a fish. Two clearcoating tips: 1.) When doing a glitter topcoat, mix it in with the devcon 2 ton and paint it on (it WILL settle to the bottom under the surface finish if you get the ultra-fine stuff), but first go over your eyes without the glitter. It just gives it a more professional look, I think. 2.) When clearcoating a lure where the line tie and the hook anchors are already in place, bend a paper clip partially straight and use it to clean out the excess that gets in the anchors. You may have to stop the rotation of the bait a couple of times to clean them out, but it saves you from having to cut it out with a blade after it dries hard. I'll hopefully get my first two custom lures posted soon... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tally Posted June 16, 2004 Report Share Posted June 16, 2004 Did you say DEVCON???????? Imagine that!! Tally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the-bass-catcher Posted June 16, 2004 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2004 Devcon 2 ton is the best there is as far as I am concerned Tally! Hard surface keeps rocks and hooks from damaging my priceless lures... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tally Posted June 16, 2004 Report Share Posted June 16, 2004 Yep, that is what I use also. While you were away there has been a fued between the Hatfields and McCoys about which is best. I thought I would just razz the boys a little. Anyway, welcome back and we look forward to seeing your baits. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richoc Posted June 16, 2004 Report Share Posted June 16, 2004 If you want to see the glitter in 2 years you had better use some thing else. Richoc "the Etex devil" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeeter Posted June 16, 2004 Report Share Posted June 16, 2004 Richoc, You da man.... Keep using that Envirotex!!!! It is the best quality clearcoat that there is. As long as something no larger than a bluegill hits it your lure and it bumps into something no harder than coontail moss your bait will hold up just fine. Bass Catcher, Don't worry, it won't yellow. Skeeter aka........Devil Anse Hatfield Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiverMan Posted June 16, 2004 Report Share Posted June 16, 2004 Oh sure Tally, throw some fuel on the fire, lol. I have said enough on this subject, will let Skeeter take over the guns for awhile. Jed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richoc Posted June 16, 2004 Report Share Posted June 16, 2004 Skeeter, Are the baits in your avaitar suposed to be yellow? Devcon even turns yellow in photos wow............ I will sent you a jig and see if you can damage the finish if you like? Richoc "the Etex Devil" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the-bass-catcher Posted June 16, 2004 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2004 Eww...touchy subject. My avatar is a close-up of a scanned bait of mine, and it has stayed white for about a year and a half, and yes, it has seen its share of sunshine on the casting deck...no yellowing yet. Maybe the only solution is to get someone to do some non-biased experiments with both types...until then I'm standing beside my devcon 2 ton! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richoc Posted June 17, 2004 Report Share Posted June 17, 2004 A non-bias party would have no clue how to work with the Etex. I hope all are taking this in good fun. We will use what we use untill we find better. If you are happy with it, that is what matters. Richoc "The Etex Devil" Try the dark side and you will never look back. Almost forgot .........Bass are a Bait fish up here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tally Posted June 17, 2004 Report Share Posted June 17, 2004 Well I guess I will apologize. I just couldn't resist stirring the pot. Yes, is just fun. Everyone has their own opinion and the many readers will have to just try them all an figure out which one is for them. the-bass-catcher I see it didn't take you long to figure out what I meant and I also noticed that you couldn't resist the temptation yourself. To be real honest, I get a good laugh everytime you guys get on this. Tally aka "Devcon Dave" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeeter Posted June 17, 2004 Report Share Posted June 17, 2004 Boys, Boys, Boys, This is a very serious subject. We wouldn't want to steer the new crankbait makers on this site in the wrong direction. As everyone can see.... Richoc and Chip are constantly talking of "The Dark Side" That should be hint enough. Tally, Get that Choirboy look off of your face...... some of us know better. Richoc, Sure, I would love to try your jigs. I use them allot in the fall. Do you think they would be dry by then? Skeeter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiverMan Posted June 17, 2004 Report Share Posted June 17, 2004 LMAO! Do I smell something burning? The Big Dog Barked!! Jed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richoc Posted June 17, 2004 Report Share Posted June 17, 2004 We only say it is the dark side. Really it is the Clear ," Tuff ", and long lasting side. But you hethans are hard to get through to. So by making it seems wrong, we peak your interest. Those who have found there way, will never go back. Richoc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chip Posted June 17, 2004 Report Share Posted June 17, 2004 Fellers, Fellers, Fellers....... This etex guru just wants to say that I switched from Devcon to Etex after Cracks and surface failures started appearing in the lures I am supplying to my prostaff. They put lures to the test. Since switching entirely to Etex, No Problems....... Each must choose what he is most happy with. The first bait I ever coated with Devcon.... Well...I was so proud of how it came out.... Its a beautiful finish, but after the failures with the prostaff I had to use something else that I found superior.... This new Silane based resin coating I am formulating is pretty promising..... so far, so good... Tough Stuff and I have had them under Excellerated Stability Studies with UV lighting for a month now with no yellowing.... These are intense UV lights! Take Care! Chip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richoc Posted June 17, 2004 Report Share Posted June 17, 2004 Chip, All is going good I hope? Richoc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeeter Posted June 18, 2004 Report Share Posted June 18, 2004 Chip, I had that type of failure once too with Devcon. I did a post on the problem and the cause. My thought is that somewhere you missed a spot when covering the bait with the Devcon. If I am not mistaken you guys pour the Etex over the bait. This probably ensures a complete coverage over your painted surface rather than brushing it on like I do with Devcon. Once water gets to the wood and the lure starts to swell, the cracks and finish failures will happen. Skeeter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benton B Posted June 18, 2004 Report Share Posted June 18, 2004 Hey Skeeter, you are doing well with the one handed typing, I guess a little devcon vs. enviro gets the fingers moving. Hope your recovery is going well. Pm me if you need any rehab hints or with any questions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richoc Posted June 18, 2004 Report Share Posted June 18, 2004 Skeeter, I spray Etex, through a air brush or Brush it on...... Been doing it for 20 years, that way. Chip is doing the same. The pouring is for the Bar tops were it is on a level surface. That is why Chip nicknamed me the "Etex devil" in a previous post. I liked it, so keeping it. Richoc "The Etex Devil" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YosemiteSam Posted June 18, 2004 Report Share Posted June 18, 2004 :oops: ...well, I've studied both sides of the controversy and am now full enlightened as to the PROS & CONS of using Devcon & Etex; so now I can say with pride, that I will only use either DEV-TEX or EV-CON on all my hardbaits. [Whoever said a newby has to be confused? ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the-bass-catcher Posted June 19, 2004 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2004 There you go Sam! I think it is good that each person stands beside their personal preference, but to an outsider we'd all look like a bunch of fools arguing over something so small. But on the other hand, an outsider wouldn't know how important the clearcoat is...hmm... There's something for us to think about... I once had a problem with devcon after I first began using it. Sometimes spots on the bait wouldn't harden...but that was only because I was in too much of a rush and didn't stir the blend good enough! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mesabooger Posted June 19, 2004 Report Share Posted June 19, 2004 Where can I get some E-tex? I'm getting ready to start making some cranks. Also, is there a way to get a matte finish with E-tex? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richoc Posted June 19, 2004 Report Share Posted June 19, 2004 Most chain hardware stores have it. Envirotex Lite is what you are looking for. Your not going to get a matte finish with, that I know of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeeter Posted June 19, 2004 Report Share Posted June 19, 2004 Benton, The wrist is doing well. I get this (@$& cast off on the 28th. The only problem is that my arm looks like a tooth pick. Got alot of ball squeezing to do to get it back to size. Not being able to work on my baits has just killed me. I'm behind on everything. The wrist is stiff but getting back to sanding will loosen it up. Skeeter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiverMan Posted June 19, 2004 Report Share Posted June 19, 2004 Basscatcher, You are exactly right about the spots, they are caused by problems with mixing. This is why I always mix in a small dixie cup. The cup insures that all of the epoxy becomes part of the mix. If you try to mix the stuff on a flat surface it's very easy for some to escape and become a "sticky spot" on the final product. RM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
