surfk9 Posted October 20, 2013 Report Share Posted October 20, 2013 Question for you pvc bait builders...i airbrush with createx water based...what should i use for primer coat?? JR uses a krylon "plastic adhesion" paint in his video...can i use that and go over with water based ?? or is there another alternative?? i've "searched" the posts but can't seem to locate the right post with the answer i'm looking for...thanks surfk9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassguy Posted October 20, 2013 Report Share Posted October 20, 2013 I use the Krylon primer on my PVC baits. Only to have a super smooth surface to paint. Once the primer is totally dry, I'll sand it with 200 paper and then paint. I haven't had a problem with the Createx or any other water based paints on this primer. Jerry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surfk9 Posted October 20, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2013 sorry about the double post....senior thing ...couldn't figure out how to delete one of them surfk9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted October 20, 2013 Report Share Posted October 20, 2013 (edited) The PVC I use is white, so I just put my first coat of Createx right over the smooth sanded PVC, with no primer, and it holds just fine. I think heat setting the paint actually heats the PVC, too, and they kind of bond. Edited October 20, 2013 by mark poulson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdL Posted October 20, 2013 Report Share Posted October 20, 2013 I do what mark does. Createx first coat but I spend more time sanding to get a smooth surface on the PVC I use. Final sanding is with 400 grit. Also may depend on what PVC you get. Some of the stuff can be more porous. I used some of brick mold I got from L or HD (don't remember now). Turns out it is not so porous. About out now so I get to start over on the next PVC stock material. Seems like every 6 month these stores change suppliers so I won't know till I check it out. Just look at the end of the piece to see what the inside might look like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surfk9 Posted October 20, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2013 Thanks for the replies gentlemen...i'll post pic's when i get one finished...surfk9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayburnGuy Posted October 21, 2013 Report Share Posted October 21, 2013 I'm not a big fan of sanding so I end up applying a coat of epoxy over the PVC to get the smooth finish preferable for painting. If you don't mind the sanding then it's possible to sand the PVC to a smooth finish. My fingers start getting cramped up so I usually give in and apply the epoxy coat. Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassguy Posted October 21, 2013 Report Share Posted October 21, 2013 Ben, I don't like sanding but I like sanding the PVC less. That's why I prime the PVC. Once I get the PVC where I want it (smooth enough), the primer fills small sanding marks and little voids. A couple of coats really does the trick and then I sand the primer to make it smoooooth. I then dunk it in water and rinse off the dust, a little heat and ready for paint... Jerry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayburnGuy Posted October 21, 2013 Report Share Posted October 21, 2013 Thanks Jerry. Hadn't thought about using the primer as a sort of filler. May have to give that a try. Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdL Posted October 21, 2013 Report Share Posted October 21, 2013 H-m-m-m. I think I will have to try out priming for less sanding cause it is a pita to deal with all the dust all over the place and always wearing a dust mask during the process. Never too late for this ole dog to learn something. Thanks for sharing the idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted October 21, 2013 Report Share Posted October 21, 2013 I always wear a dust mask when I machine or sand PVC. I use an oscillating belt sander with a dust vacuum attachment to rough shape my blanks. My sanding station for finish sanding is right at the open overhead door to my garage, with a box fan hung from the ceiling in the back blowing out. I use twp palm sanders with both 80 and 220 grit paper for my finer shaping and sanding. I also have an air hose right there to blow off both the lures and the sanding dust from my hands and the sand paper on the sanders. If I'm feeling particularly ambitious, I will wet sand with 400 grit auto paper, but I usually skip that step, because the 220 grit leaves a smooth enough surface for painting, and I'm lazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markinorf Posted October 23, 2013 Report Share Posted October 23, 2013 Im with RayburnGuy. I don't sweat the sanding too long. Go rite away with D2T, then scuff, paint, and D2T. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
